Unhappy starting school

It's about time home schooling was Ofsteded then!

SusieB50 how awful for you. I always felt so sorry for the mums whose children cried when leaving mum when I was teaching. The child usually settled but I knew the mum would be worried all day. I am a bit concerned about the relationship that the school seems to have with the parents. I would hope that any good school would have ways of dealing with distressed children and would help your GD when she won't leave mum. I think your DD should go into the school and express her concerns and ask for help from all the staff.It may be that a kind word occasionally is all GD needs. I am not sure if any school has the right to ban children from going home at lunch time, but I may be wrong.

I wasn't thinking of children recently moved to the area. Of course they have to be found places for. At whichever school can accommodate them.

why should one size fit all?

I think local authorities do check that home schooled children are being educated decently.

(means got to go now. not cooking dinner)

I wasn't thinking of children recently moved to the area. Of course they have to be found places for. At whichever school can accommodate them

Thats only one of the 2 options for post reception entry, whether is area movers or ex home schoolers

You can go now at a place found for you by the council, it might not be at your nearest or prefered school
Or, if you have a particular school in mind, you can go on their wait list and go there when someone leaves/moves

I think local authorities do check that home schooled children are being educated decently.

Which authorities? the authorities who are cutting all subjects right down unless they're English, Maths and Science, and god help anyone whose aptitudes lie elsewhere?

And no, you do not have to have "checks" to home educate in England, you can if you wish liase with a HE rep from the LA, but it's entirely optional

There are no prescribed way one should or shouldn't home educate.
Because if the prescribed way worked then a lot of those kids would be in school wouldn't they?

You seem to have a very cynical view of schools notanan

Nope, I just don't see why a school inspection system would be fit for purpose for inspecting home educators.

Anyway, this isn't about the pros and cons of HE, I just put it on the table as many people still genuinely think school is compulsary from 5 and it's good to know your options. (especially myths are being posted about it such as compulsory LA inspection)

If you read my posts you'll see that I said it's and option that's probably not even going to be needed as it's still quite early in the term and not settling now doesn't mean they won't settle, but not all do settle, and for those who don't, HE is a valid option.

But it is taking a big chance that there will be a school place when the child is 8 or 9, where the parent would want them to go.

I agree with you notanan that not all Local Authorities check very well that home schooled children are educated decently.

I agree with you notanan that not all Local Authorities check very well that home schooled children are educated decently

I didn't say that, I said that there is no obligation to be checked by anyone if you home educate, it's entirely optional, you can decline.

You can get places post reception, they just might not be instant in your chosen school, but if you're happy to wait a few months you can do it that way. Or if you want an instant place you go through the council for an allocated place.

notanan Local Authorities have a statutory duty to ensure children, who are educated outside the school system, are meeting the National Curriculum expectations. Parents may choose to do this in all kinds of ways. It is also a Local Authority statutory duty to ensure the child is safe physically and emotionally. Most home educated children are very well cared for and learn well but there are cases when children are supporting the needs of parents at home, e.g. parents with mental health illnesses or who are home'educated' to avoid being excluded. It is a form of neglect, in my opinion, not to support a child to achieve their potential..at home or in school.

Visits are not statutory or compulsory, nor is any form of registration as a home educator. You are only known to be home educating if you either voluntarily let your LA know, or if you have been in education and have de-registered. If you never registered in the first place for reception intake there is no statutory requirement to register with anyone in England.

Even if registered and visited, home educators absolutely do not have to follow any curriculum, let alone the national one.

Similar to how the police are there to keep the community safe, but this does not mean they inspect all of our homes for evidence of criminal activity.

Whether or not you agree with this is a derailment of the thread, I posted to offer the option incase it had not been considered, if people want to post their opinions on the current law in relation to HE then probably start another thread.

As it stands, you don't need to register as HE, if you de-register from a school you will be registered as HE, you may be contacted by the LA, but in the absense of any other issues such as SS involvement, whether or not you have anything to do with the LA is entirely up to the individual family.

Some facts/laws, incase they're of interest to anyone whose DCs or DGCs don't settle in he school setting:

www.educationotherwise.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=75&Itemid=68&limitstart=1

Have you been a home educator notanan?

My post of 21.54 is what you are saying notanan. Your posts are agreeing, but never mind.

My home educated grandson had an inspection during the school holidays.
His work was inspected, he talked to the ed psych, and sent work into the council.
The inspector was in the house for three hours.
His home education was deemed to be satisfactory for him.

I wonder what other parents would say to their children having three hours of one to one inspection.

That is good and quite right, djen

I find it a bit worrying that it is not compulsory to have an inspection, particularly after the case of that child in Wales who died.

We had a brief visit, in the '70s from a school welfare officer (Wag man?) who chatted for a few minutes, ascertained a qualified teacher was involved and said 'No, you don't want to send a nice little girl like her to a school like that!' The school wasn't the reason she was home educated anyway.
Later that 'little girl' decided to go to the school, made plenty of friends and passed her O levels at 'that school'.

My home educated grandson had an inspection during the school holidays

That'll be because either his parents agreed to the optional inspection
Or there were other concerns

You do not routinely need to agree to inspection.

If he's in England that is, it's not the same in other parts of the UK.

We have someone in the family who home educates and she will allow the Inspector to see the children's work but not the children themselves because they are on the AS so she says they get unsettled. Personally, I think that the children should be checked in some way but she has the right to say no. As for the curriculum, many parents don't follow the National Curriculum because it is so restrictive and that is why their children aren't in school. I think parents should provide a curriculum to the LA and be asked to provide evidence this has been successful. It is too airy fairy at the moment although I suspect that most parents give a better education than a lot of schools.