UKIP

How many personal insults did you manage to cram into that posting? And you wonder why you sour grapes remoaners lost.

Pollengran Yes, the 'old' was a bit unnecessary.

Jaycee5 excellent posts from you.

And skinny dipping too!! ???

He encouraged people to jump into a deep, muddy puddle and then ran away, while hanging on to his MEP's salary. Nice chap!

What exactly has he done? And, given that you've now been 'heard' what is being done about it?

I voted UKIP and will do so again. I always used to vote Labour until Blair opened the UK door and the Tories left it open. I voted to leave the EU for many reasons mainly because the refendem gave me and millions of others the chance to be heard at long last. Love him or hate him Farge has done more for the UK than all those so called leaders in the other parties ever did. Incredably he done it despite all the media and other parties dirty tricks to try and stop him.

johnofwixall Osborne lost us the triple A rating some time ago and it was a result of his austerity failures, not Brexit. Standard & Poor was the ratings agency who gave perfect scores to the banks selling derivatives that caused the crash.
There was no slip of my typing as I wasn't writing a dissertation. Social media is not really the place to include every single fact (or inaccuracy in the instance you mention).
There were deceptions on both sides. We were not champing at the bit to go to war with Europe before the EU (although we have not gone much beyond it for our perpetual wars).
Your tone is unnecessary unpleasant but is a good illustration of what I was talking about in my first comment.
I don't understand why people vote Tory but I don't choose to insult people who do on social media. There is nothing to gain from it and never persuades anyone.

If we're so rich and great how come the NHS is in such a mess?

'This little island off the coast of Europe' What a patronising, and insulting way to describe the 3rd biggest population of Europe. If you want little, try Luxembourg, Estonia, Latvia, Belgium, Holland, Austria. We are the 5th biggest economy in the the world. We do not have a collapsing economy (Greece) or 40% plus youth unemployment (Spain) or less than half a million population (Luxembourg), nor are we wavering on the edge of huge economic problems (Portugal, Spain, Italy). It is tricky to decide which of the EU countries will need bail out next. So we are NOT a little island off the coast of Europe, and those who would do us down should stop being so negative.

Ahhhh democracy - so that's the new word for criminal deception is it?
No one suggest the EU is right by any means, but to gain victory by deception is shameful and unforgivable and puts the brexit campaign on the same level as a 3rd world Banana republic Which is what England will become once the foreign investors have pulled out, without the bananas of course!
Oh by the way it must have been a slip of your typing but you failed to tell us that having, almost in an instant, lost us the UK triple A credit status with Standards and Poor and both Nissan and Toyota have put any future investment in their UK car plants on hold, until they see what deal will be struck. Oh yes and Lloyds are considering their options for the reinsurance market.
Lloyds of Paris or Lloyds of Berlin or even Madird don't exactly trip off the tongue like Lloyds of London does it?
Anyway I do sincerely hope many of you 17 million people enjoy their future in this little island off the cost of Europe.
You know the one with about as much influence on the world stage as Guernsey becasue unless Theresa May took lessons from Paul Daniels and can actually pull rabbit out of hats then I doubt the worker in Burnaston or Sunderland will be quite as enthusiastic as foxy seems to think

Hermione23 It is possible to make the argument for Leave without speaking to people in that way.
There is too much divisiveness in the Country. There was even before the referendum so people need to start respecting the fact that people an have very different opinions on this.

GillT57 No one knows exactly what changes there will be with residency. It will depend partly on what the EU offers for British citizens working in the EU.
It is very unlikely that people settled and working here will have to leave.
The nephew from New Zealand will be more likely to get a work permit once Brexit actually happens (although no one really knows yet).
Obviously the idea that nice people will be able to stay is silly but given the way that you reported this conversation, it sounds as if that might just be someone trying to reassure her and was maybe a little bit kinder and less patronising than you were.

Hermione23 how very rude!!

GillT57, the words 'pot' and 'kettle' spring to mind!

Even the sight of the letters UKIP makes my flesh crawl.

UKIP don't want to expel any particular group of people trisher. Why should people who are here working, paying taxes, pulling their weight be expelled?

The scaremongering media have a lot to answer for.

hermione23 nasty comments are not welcome. Go back to working out where the £350m per week is going to come from and let us know when you have worked it out. You have not won, the country has lost and you are pathetic.

Bit of a sweeping statement there -- I don't have a pussy, old or otherwise.

sour maybe, Tories maybe, but OLD??? You come on Gransnet and use the word OLD? I can't take you seriously you ageist little curmudgeon.

What a lot of sour faced old pussies you all are, tories mostly of course.I am very proud to have voted leave, you don't like the fact that we won, well TOUGH.

well I just spent an interesting afternoon playing cards with a group of women, chiefly comfortably retired, and I almost had an aneurysm trying not to blurt out ' well, what did you bloody expect?' One of them has a EU national DiL who is concerned about her residency given the referendum result. Cue lots of comments such as 'oh, she wont get thrown out, she is such a nice person' . and ' my nephew from New Zealand cant get a work permit, it is disgusting'.....etc, etc. These people, I know, to a person, voted leave. Just what did they think was going to happen? Only nasty foreigners would have to leave, but the ones married into nice white middle class families would get some sort of exemption? Sorry to hijack your question regarding UKIP leadership,and quite happy to give this new person a hearing, but never, ever, my vote.

Totally agree with that trisher.

UKIP is the scariest party I have seen since the 1940s. The idea that one particular group of people are responsible for the economic ills of a country and that by expelling that group all will be well, led to a World War. I dread to think what would happen if this party ever really had power.

We were asked to vote on whether we wanted to stay in the eu or leave it, nothing else. If anyone believed anything a politician said, more fool them.