Toilets with children

Perhaps the child's father knows best

What an uptight view the British have, which is another thing that sets us apart from other parts of Europe, with regard to using the toilet. In France, particularly, they have outside urinals, and when we camped, at one site a couple of urinals were on the outside wall of the toilet. Whilst queuing for the loo when visiting the Palace of Versailles I was hauled into the men's by the female attendant because the queue was so long. Women, in some other European countries will go into the men's at service stations if the queue is too long at the ladies.

Yes, Aslemma, we've already been told that joke (or a version of it) earlier today!

Peeing is peeing! Everybody does it!
I am not a prude, my dgd sees me naked in the shower often if she needs to use the bathroom! I sleep in the buff and she sometimes gets in with me. I wouldn't feel any different about a dgs tbh.
Bodies are bodies, same functions different shapes!

I think I'm a bit of a prude

Dont quite believe the part where the father left his DD outside the cubicle while he used it. The reason for urinals is you can get about 6 urinals in the space of 3 cubicles and why there is rarely a queue at the gents unlike in the ladies. Fathers today seem to be the parent to take the little ones to the loo when out as a family. I have seen it in several countries. Whereas when we were younger it usually fell to Mum to take the children to the toilet or change nappies.

I had quite an experience last year in Portugal. I needed to use the loo before shopping at the supermarket. I walked into the ladies to see a man disappearing into one of the cubicles. Not unusual here for men to use the ladies and vice verse of theirs is being cleaned or out of action. I came out to this man washing his todger under the tap. That rather unsettled me for a moment but just walked out. I reported to the store because supposing a young girl had gone in there on her own. Still not sure whether he was doing it to shock or merely fastidious. He didn't look Portuguese.

Many years ago I did a lot of dinghy sailing. There's no way you could be a prude doing that when the need took you. And performing a good balancing act with the bailing bucket ( that's not a bucket)

I have taken both grandsons into the ladies' loos with me as they have grown but understand the problems on both sides. Now they are older, the 12 year-old uses the mens' loo but I stand guard outside and have been known to yell through the door to check all is OK! The younger one, at 5 is still shepherded into the ladies with me.

As ladies' loos are cubicles and ladies don't actively show any bits, having a boy in the ladies' isn't too much of a problem. A girl in a men's loo is more problematic although surely small children wouldn't really notice men's 'bits'. Post 5 or so, I feel that girls can manage the loo on their own and use the ladies room, perhaps asking a passing woman to escort the child in and out.

Conversely, I do feel uncomfortable when in the changing room at the swimming pool. Other women take in boys aged, say, 8 to 12 and the eyes of the boys are most definitely swivelling, watching the girls bodies as they are rubbed dry and dressed. I try to ensure my granddaughter finds a cubicle but as they are in geat demand, this is not always possible.

My grandson has been using the male changing room at the swimming pool since he was 8. Yes there is a problem with someone prying/preying on him but one has to start somewhere and after a swimming lesson there are other boys using the changing rooms too, so I deem it safe.

My 3-year-old DGD has been known to exclaim "Daddy, you've got a penis. You could use one of those penis toilets!"

I think the man who was using a urinal at the time was the one who was embarrassed.

Just to clarify, a few posts are maligning the man for leaving the child whilst he went back for a pee

WE DONT KNOW THAT it seems as if OP just made a BIG presumption

So Smithy if you wouldn't let your grand daughter go in the mens if she was with dad or grandad what WOULD you do ? Let her pee her pants ?

I can remember my Dad having to take me in to Public Toilets when we were travelling home fairly late. Ladies Toilets were closed but Gents were open, I would have been about 8.

Most men don't choose to sit if there are only cubicles.....I'll leave you to form your own pictures.

How many women would refuse to use the Ladies if there was a Male Toilet Attendant on duty? That is the case at many Railway Stations & Motorway Services - doesn't bother me - I'd rather have clean toilets

I couldn't care less who s cleaning my toilet
I think this is all hugely over thought just go have your wee and leave, If a small child needs a wee do whatever is best in the situation, the more you make a deal of it the more the child will grow up with hang ups
I cannot understand the 'shock/horror of the original poster at a 2 year old maybe getting a few secs sight of peeing men It won't cause her life time trauma however if she stood and weed her pants in public she might well remember that

Our local pool has no sex segregated loos or changing rooms ,there are just single or family cubicles and you just choose what you want .I would not be happy with an 8 year old boy or girl going into changing rooms on their own . Driving through France and Italy last year I had no issue with men using the ladies and visa versa when the loos were being cleaned .It happened at least once a day during our trip and they were always spotless , which is more than I can say for our UK loos .

Im with you on this one OP. Don't think it's acceptable for a little girl to go into a blokes toilet in the pub.

Okay, I don't agree with you but okay that's your view, so can you explain what you think should happen if a 2year old needs a wee when out with daddy or granddad/big brother/uncle?

2 year olds need a little help or at least supervision and checking of the cubicle before hand.

Should the dad go into the ladies?
Should the dad trust a random stranger who happens to be female?
What should happen, in your view?

As for a 2YO being in a pub, there are lots of different kinds of pub, I call our local harvester a "pub" and on a sunday there's very few tables without kids sitting at them.

Jalima, Im not bored, are you?

People that think it acceptable to take a girl into a male toilet in the pub need their bumps felt.

Totally support the OP.

So what would you do, stillaliveandkicking? Or perhaps you're one of those who would never take a child into a pub...?

Jalima, Im not bored, are you?


Not bored, just concerned.

I have taken my DS into a pub now and again when little, I wouldn't take a little girl in the mens nor a little boy for that matter.

You were the one asking if the OP was bored so I just mirrored your rude comment Jalima.

What are you concerned about? That the OP was bored?

You were the one asking if the OP was bored so I just mirrored your rude comment Jalima.

No, it was not me who posted it - I merely copied it from someone else who is obviously of the same mind as me

You are the one who is rude

You were copying the same attitude.

You are rude.

So if the little girl (or a boy) is there with no female family members, should they let her wet her pants? Ask a strange woman to take her in? (you hear some awful things about women too) go home? take her outside to the car park and have her squat behind a car?

Id do either of your last two ideas Elgran. She was 2.

If it's a small pub, I'd just ask the staff to stand guard whilst I took the little one into the ladies (if I were a man in charge of the little one). Go out in the carpark in this weather? Don't forget to take serviettes for wiping.

And when likely she's just gotten toilet trained?

That would send my DGD straight back into nappies, she'd see the process as very uncomfortable and happier to go back to peeing in her gel-padded Pampers!

Although of course we don't know how old the child was. We only know what the OP (who seems to have disappeared) told us.

Somehow she 'knew' the child was 2 and she also 'knew' that the father left his daughter outside the cubicle while he used the toilet.

The OP stated she was 2.