Unisex toilets in primary schools

Great if you can do that, however most places can't and under no circumstances should toilets be made unisex due to a "minority" group.

Just to clarify what I mentioned earlier, the gender-neutral loos in our school are an EXTRA facility to accommodate LGBTG students just as loos are provided for disabled students. I'm all in favour of providing facilities for minority groups.

A truly awful idea. Seems that people are being ridiculous over a certain "minority" group as usual.

I think it has quite a bit to do with where the toilets are situated with regards to the other school buildings. When I was at school they were a good way from the rest of the school civilisation whereas in the schools I taught in they are within the buildings and nearer to classrooms etc.

It's the way the issue is approached. We are so used to Girls / Boys and Ladies / Gents that any change is something to be feared. If it is seen as the 'norm' what's the problem? The cubicles aren't shared when being used after all so there is privacy.

Riverwalk, I've just looked news headlines again and I see Ana has provided the link. Not sure why but it appears it was headline news in March and it's now come back into the news. I didn't see it first time round, but was surprised by it yesterday. I called my DD as my GD is 7 and asked her about GD school andshe said yes hers are unisex toilets.I posted on here as was interested in all your opinions as I know it's something I never experienced growing up.

The girls will soon sort things out looking for the place with the best mirrors and a space where they can meet to gossip before and after using the loo. Boys will rush in and out as they usually do, unless there is an opportunity to do something like turning the taps on or blocking the drain with paper towels. (Sorry I know it's sexist but in my experience that's what goes on)
Seriously it is irrelevant and a way of deflecting from the real problems in education.

Nellie - the infant school toilets - like their chairs and tables - are little people sized!

We all like some privacy using the toilet, within a family it is slightly different. In a family our little chidren are happy to sit on a potty in front of all and sundry.
I think children naturally develop the social norms about such privacy issues.

I am sure small boys competitions about how high they can pee are still going on. Not a feat us girls are equipped for. I wonder if we were we would try.

When my DS was at nursery school we were living an area with a quite big Jewish population. At at one point my son asked why some boys had "patterns on their willies." I did not try to explain circumcision and its historical religious significance to an under 5.

My rising 5 DGS1 (and younger brother) are both quite small for their age. I do wonder how DGS1 will get on unless they have infant size toilets.

(I have not been near primary school toilets for years so I have no idea how big they are.)

I agree with VQ first paragraph. Sexualisation of children at such a young age is wrong. They're simply children. DGS happily rides his cousin's handed down bright pink bike having no knowledge yet of the colour bar for boys to have anything pink. In a time when equality is lauded more than ever little girls and little boys seem to be more stereotyped than ever. Just let them be children until their teens when all will become clear. Even then, does it really matter?

Personally I don't like the idea of girls having to change for PE in front of boys once they're heading for puberty. Periods etc are just toooo embarrassing.

and exhibitionism

Just read the article. I'm more concerned about the sexualisation of children by society rather than the potential for wild orgies in primary toilets.

I'm amazed the media hasn't caught on to the fact that primary children get changed for PE in front of each other. Yes indeed, they strip to their underwear. Not only that but a lot of primary teachers turn it into a competition and award stickers to those children who get changed the quickest. Surely someone should get on their soapbox about this obvious encouragement of voyeurism

My DGS's nursery has just two toilets side by side so one person can keep an eye on two children at the same time. So moving on to infant school the children would be used to unisex loos. Perhaps Urinal loos and Cubical loos might be an option? Or, like in some French loos have the urinals at one end - although preferably the far end. I hate having to walk past a row of blokes to get to the cubicles!

(DGS insisted the other day on using the Mens loo so he could use the urinal now he's just about tall enough (a tall three years). I had to stand outside and wait until he called for me to open the outside door as it had a strong spring. Felt very awkward!)

When I was in the sixth form back in the Dark Ages we had unisex toilets. We never thought anything of it.

A school I taught at in the 70s and 80s had unisex toilets. For what was the Infants facilities they were built in a block within the classroom space. There were two complete cubicles in the block. They had high windows which were too high for the children to look in but an adult could - so any worry at all and you could have a peep. For the older children there were two cubicles for each classroom within the cloakroom area just outside the classroom. Sometimes a class of children themselves would more or less decided that one was male and one female but it was not labelled or anything. The school was built to take up to11 year olds. Never any problems.
In France many places have just two or three unisex toilets - occasionally you get a place with only one toilet!!

Times are a-changing!
Our school has male and female loos and gender-neutral washrooms from kindergarten to Grade 12 to accommodate the LGBTG students and teachers.The school community is inclusive. Diversity is valued and respected and the little children just accept gender-variant and transgender students along with everybody else.

Well I suppose entirely cubicalled toilets might help ?

Although if you really want a right wing publication's take on it...

www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2017/03/06/primary-schools-will-have-unisex-bathrooms-council-reveals/

To be fair, GillT57 it wasn't the Daily Mail - it's some primary school in Glasgow that started all this and it's been reported by many newspapers (it's not news of the day!)

aggie we may share a loo at home but we dont have strangers wandering round our homes. I was 8 when my periods started and it was bad enough going to school during a period it would have been hell if i had to have a shared loo space with immature little boys

Ah but aggie. At home our loos and bathrooms are generally used by a small number of people we know.

More than likely the toilets were built for the very small, young infants who sometimes need help or supervision and it makes sense to have them unisex. Then the Daily Mail stirred it up into some kind of sexual perversion fest for the under 10s. Keep calm.

How many people have unisex toilets at home ? Just asking ............

Tessa101 No! They are not "far too young" to know about "these" things.
This is like the idiot idea by ?some politician of thinking up mixed sex wards.

The new part of a local comp, (I am not sure if it is just the 6th form block) have unisex cloakrooms. It is not right.

I think we all probably feel vulnerable when going into cloakrooms of the opposite sex is around. would you like to be seen buying sanitary protection is a unisex toilet?
I like the idea of luckygirls school with special provision for the girls dealing with their first periods.