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How can I make my daughter lose weight?

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worriednan Wed 17-May-17 09:20:54

Before you say anything, this is nothing to do with aesthetics. She's beautiful anyway and will always be beautiful to me whatever she weighs. But she's basically a ticking time bomb. She's always been curvy but over the last decade has piled on the weight to the point that she is now morbidly obese and the strain on her heart is immense. I don't know how I can help her. She is 45, happily married, has a job she enjoys and many good friends so I don't think it's unhappiness that is driving to her to eat but the compulsion is there nonetheless. We are all so worried about her and love her so much and just want to help. She previously had a gastric band removed and so surgery is not an option. It would now also be tremendously risky. She just doesn't seem to care about the problem and we just want her to be in a position where her health is more stable. I would welcome advice from anyone who has found themselves in a similar situation

Lewlew Wed 17-May-17 13:03:47

FarNorth Wed 17-May-17 11:02:37 Thank you... it was and I was here in the UK and they were in the US. They told me if I wanted to come... the hospital could delay the switch-off for one day, but I could not get there without a lot of plane changes and would not arrive till the following day. My niece put her mobile to his ear, and he just gasped and whimpered as I told him I loved him. Three hours later she texted me that he was gone. My hand shook so much I could hardly text a reply. It still haunts me, almost worse than when it happened. sad

Worriednan Sorry for my graphic posts, but thar could well be her future. Would her older children be willing to support you and be there if you talked with her about it? They must be worried, too, if any are into their teen years. Your daughter might want help but has thrown her hands up because of the gastric band problems. They can be other ways to lose weight as posters have shared. And do you know if her GP has said something that was not tactful or encouraging? Maybe something about that has put her off as well. flowers

worriednan Wed 17-May-17 13:08:30

Yes I think she is happy in terms of work, marriage, social life, general. She was always curvy but I think that her huge weight rise probably was some form of control over her life in teen years - I suppose not unlike anorexia is but in reverse. She doesn't have children (never wanted them) but dotes on her nephews and I do genuinely think she is happy - not to say life is perfect but then is is for any of us? But yes, I think she would describe herself as that now. The damage has been done over many, many years and now her health is suffering so much. She's young. Only mid 40s. It's not a case of making her aware of the health issues as she is only too aware of them. But it would take so so much to make a tiny difference that I can see that that could make anyone think what's the point

FarNorth Wed 17-May-17 13:30:06

Does your DD talk to you about her weight? Do you know what she believes the cause to be?
You say she jokes about her weight, could you use that as a starter to ask if she is really okay with it?
Be very careful, though, as even expressing concern about her health could come across as criticism.

Lewlew Wed 17-May-17 13:33:54

Oh apologies, I assumed she had a family. Well, you can only hope it comes to her to take charge of her body and life without it being a medical crisis. Fingers crossed and sending you my very best wishes and admiration for being lovlingly concerned. I am sure she knows you are and that may help some day along the way when she feels the need to do something.

{{{hugs}}}

gillybob Wed 17-May-17 13:35:53

Sometimes people use humour as a defense mechanism worriednan which could be your DD's way of "pretending" that she is fine with it.I doubt any of us are really happy being overweight (and i don't mean a pound or two). Losing a lot of weight takes incredible willpower and support from others and its really very difficult to "go it alone".

I use humour as a way of coping with nasty things. I tend to make a joke (at my own expense) as a way of covering up how I really feel inside.

Luckygirl Wed 17-May-17 13:40:47

I am puzzled by the reversal of her gastric band - that is a very strong statement of her intent, so much so that I would leave her be. She is obviously very determined to live as SHE wishes.

willa45 Wed 17-May-17 13:43:30

I strongly suspect that overweight is not just a matter of diet and exercise...it's a disease caused by some metabolism altering microbe that is yet to be discovered. With so much expert advice and so many diets, it should be so easy to lose weight, yet so many of us struggle mightily with meager success by comparison.

anniemac43 Wed 17-May-17 13:44:56

Interesting that she had a gastric band in the fist place. Well done her. Because she wanted to do the magic solution, presumably, and eat less. Did it work? Did she discover that actually eating less lost her weight? If so, she knows the answer... so if and when she wants to lose weight again, she'll know to get smaller portions ( or smaller plates)

I went on a cruise ship once full of American holidaymakers. The snout they lied on each plate of food was astonishing. And then went for second. And many were in wheelchairs. Young, not crooked, just too fat to walk. Almost all looked too big to fit into an airline seat. So they had to holiday on a cruise ship.

anniemac43 Wed 17-May-17 13:47:51

What a lot of mistyping! Sorry about that. Correction: ' the amount they piled into their plates'. And 'young, not crippled'. It's this beastly spell-check on my phone!

Grannygru Wed 17-May-17 13:49:34

Hi I've done the Marisa Peer course, where we learnt to uncover the reason behind the overeating, using hypnosis. Search for RTT which is rapidl transformational therapy, which does what it says. The person understands their valid reasons for the behaviour-whatever it is from addiction to phobias and much more- then decide they don't need that in their lives anymore.

Cherrytree59 Wed 17-May-17 13:54:36

hi worriednan I am just wondering if you have had a quiet word with her husband, not to criticise I Hasten to add,
just to ask if your daughter is feeling as well as she says or if its possible that she is putting on a brave face in front of her mum.

You don't say if your daughter's husband/partner is large or of average weight.

Does her DH mention any concerns he may have with your DD's size.
Who does the cooking?

Are her children (if she has any ) eating healthy?
It maybe possible to have a healthy eating discussion about children's eating habits rather than your daughter's

However you know your DD best, so if you think that would make matters worse please just stay schtum.

Apologies if I have asked too many questions

pengwen Wed 17-May-17 14:11:06

my mum always mentions weight and always seems to be unhappy with mine even at size 12 ,I was a runner,walked a lot and rode horses most weekends.I swam and was very active.I then trained
as a nurse away from home and with shifts being unable to exercise as I had and especially nights I became a size 12-14.I still walked a lot and am careful with diet.
I had children ,no family nearby and the exercise became harder to do consisting of playing ,walking ,running and swimming with children but remained a size 14-16 at most.I then had a nasty accident and was unable to walk for some time and then really knew about it,the weight increased,I could not even walk in the house ,cook etc .
At this time mum was unable to help living a 100 miles away.Luckily my friends helped taking the children to school but their activity too was restricted,my husband did what he could but due to his work hours things were limited.My mum would comment on weight but give the children sweets and chocolate when we saw her.
Recently I had a severe illness and although I had lost weight from eating healthily in the previous months the first thing she said was that I had gained weight (no lost 2 stone and now in healthy weight range) .The medication I take is one that can cause weight gain so am being careful but want to live my life and enjoy it.My husband said "your mum is always putting you down" and now I see it too.I will never be pretty,thin,or good enough in any thing-at least you do care but just tell her you are concerned and there for her .
the word diet should mean a way of eating not restricting and punishment.Diabetes is a real threat but it is hard to cook everything from the beginning and unfortunately healthy fresh food is expensive-just keep leading by example.
I would have been very upset and resentful if given slimmers world tokens!

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Luckygirl Wed 17-May-17 14:43:09

This lady is obese; but the concern is fed by silly discussions about dress size. I take a 14-16 and my BMI is entirely normal. It annoys me a bit TBH when people talk about these sort of dress sizes as being large - crazy.

worriednan Wed 17-May-17 14:51:00

Her husband is normal size. He adores her but he is concerned about the risks to her health. They eat well enough - it's the amount she has but actually that's not even the issue - the issue is many, many years of overeating which has resulted in her current size. To stress, none of us care about it in terms of how she looks or her dress size. Only from the perspective of her health. we are not talking a bit overweight, chubby or anything like that. Morbidly obese in the true sense

Kim19 Wed 17-May-17 15:01:22

Hello worriednan. Had a similar problem with my son and it was indeed the diabetes etc. that was my worry. However I said my piece to him once on that topic and never mentioned it again. It's not a lot of fun having to take even loving criticism when the times we were meeting up were so precious otherwise. However....... in his own good time he is making a difference. He has a mountain to climb and I think the difficult part is simply getting started. The last thing an excessively overweight person wants to do is exercise. Takes much more effort than the average 'fatty'. I regularly praise his progress when I see it and say nothing when I don't. There are very few of us in this world nowadays who wouldn't like to lose a bit of weight. We are all personally aware all the time but strong will is a rare and difficult commodity. Only the individual can deal with this and sometimes mention by others - no matter how loving - just makes them dig their heels in and become resentful. I wish you well. She sounds like an intelligent girl and an all rounder. So....... maybe, just maybe..........

Norah Wed 17-May-17 15:04:09

I think all you can do is love her the way she is. She has to want to lose before it will happen. I don't think talking about her size or weight will help.

When I ponder gaining a pound I get in a state to lead to really gaining.

Jalima1108 Wed 17-May-17 15:15:31

worriednan I can see that you are very worried and you probably have cause to be so. Perhaps she has an outward show of happiness because she can't face the thought of losing such a lot of weight which must seem overwhelming.

Going to WW or Slimming World to lose a couple of stone is daunting enough but this is not the problem here - unless she decides for herself that hat is what she wants to do I don't think you can talk her into starting. CBT could be the answer - and realising that it a day at a time and one day's setback doesn't mean giving up.
The thing is that losing the first stone or so when someone is morbidly obese could be relatively easy - when the weight loss slows down is the time it must get harder.

Gaggi3 Wed 17-May-17 15:16:58

I refer anyone interested to the article in the Guardian today which claims that being fat but fit is not likely. Apologies for not providing a link but I don't have a clue how to do that.

Caro1954 Wed 17-May-17 15:20:35

I'm not really sure whether you've ever broached the subject of your concern for her or not? Sorry if I've missed it somewhere. You say you are "all" concerned so maybe she has picked up on this and feels threatened? My DD was overweight for several years, then her marriage ended and the weight just dropped off. She looks better and feels better (though she doesn't eat healthily) but now, having worried about her weight, I now worry about the fact that she smokes. Just like you I can't make her stop so just have to be there ...

grandmaof3 Wed 17-May-17 15:28:05

Hi grandmaof3's daughter here. Weight is such a sensitive subject, I am around 8-9 stone overweight. My Mum worries about me, I try for a while with some success then put it back on. Each time I feel like a failure which sends me back to food. I think food is my drug happy=eat, sad=eat, stressed=eat I don't really understand why I do it. But like your daughter I have a good life, friends husband son and a worried Mum. Its realizing I am worth it and stop listening to that voice that says I am going to fail - all diets work but its finding what's right for you and what fits in with your life style. For me I have been going regularly to slimming world (just over a year)although I haven't lost a huge amount I have learnt quite a lot about myself, that I am worth it, that having been weak and eaten that chocolate bar no-one is judging me except me! If something is worth having its not going to be easy. I have made some good friends going and realize its not just me who struggles. I'm Not sure if this is helpful but I'm guessing your daughter knows and as others have said she needs to make the changes but for some of us it takes time - I am 45

seacliff Wed 17-May-17 15:40:41

I sympathise. I cannot get to grips with my weight. It is a psychological problem. I don't think it is likely to help if you talk to her about it.

I have seen this place - Weight Matters - sadly in London. Some of what they say really resonates with me.

seacliff Wed 17-May-17 15:42:31

Sorry didn't mean to click then. the link is weightmatters.co.uk/disordered-eating/psychological-factors-in-obesity/

I know nothing about them, just thought they talk a lot of sense. Sorry I can't be of more help. Just keep on being a loving supportive Mum x

worriednan Wed 17-May-17 15:59:50

We are not in London but I will look that up. I really appreciate all your supportive comments

Sparklefizz Wed 17-May-17 16:35:52

Food can be just as much of an addiction as drink or drugs, and it "anaesthetises" uncomfortable emotions, so no amount of reasoning will convince someone to stop. I had a morbidly obese friend of about 28 stone who collapsed and was put into an induced coma in hospital and tube-fed. She was already diabetic with heart and liver problems. She lost 10 stone in hospital, but the psychological aspects of her eating were never addressed, and once she was back home she would sit in a chair all day ordering takeaways and consequently the weight soon went back on. Sadly her heart eventually packed up.

I have found this thread very interesting because I am worried about my own daughter who has a different addiction which may sound "healthy" but isn't .... she is addicted to running which she took up because of stress in her marriage (she is now divorced). Now running is her main priority. It has the same effect on emotions as comfort eating.

She runs even when she has quite bad injuries, thus making her injuries much worse and very painful, but she forces herself constantly because she says she "feels better" for running, even though she is in her 40s and her body is rebelling. I suspect that emotionally she feels better but physically she has all sorts of problems. She has to sleep in the afternoons before collecting the kids from school because she can't live a normal life due to exhaustion - still she continues.

I tried to broach the subject one time but she got very angry and I had to back off. So I have found this thread very interesting and realise I will have to keep my worries to myself and let her make her own decisions, even if that means watching her push herself to total collapse. It's heartbreaking.