Granddaughters writing

If you see my post Minimouse in our case the school refused and said they could only test and help failing students but although it's a lot of money if is worth having a private assessment done if nothing else my grandaughter should get 15.minutes extra if needed in exams ( to compensate slow reading or not so accurate reading) and that in itself may be more than enough help

I agree with trisher and Coolgran she may be dyslexic. Her school should be able to arrange for her to be assessed, but speaking from experience, you/her parents will have to be persistent! Schools are not always keen to pay for the assessment or the extra tuition and may try to fob you off.

Trisher I too will come down on Dyslexia my granddaughter has good handwriting but the d and b still go the wrong way round at 14 and her spelling is below standard The school wouldn't believe it because she is an a * student in everything except her language class and they refused to test her , so my daughter paid a lot of money to have her tested privately and she is serverly dyslexic, although she has average reading skills she's wont read stories as such hard work goes into identifying the word that she loses the gist of the story the dyslexia report advices the school gave her a laptop but she won't use one in class as she can't bear to be different to her friends However she seems to find a way as she is doing really well and is taking Triple science and was recently picked out to go on a women's science/engineering day

We can't all have brilliant handwriting which (imho) is a bit of an art form. My eldest GD aged 11 has impeccable handwriting. just like her grandma whereas her 9 year old sisters' is a bit "hit and miss" although they are both very bright. I (personally) wouldn't take messy handwriting too seriously and look to diagnose it as something. Plenty doctors, engineers (and dare I say teachers) have very messy handwriting. Usually means that they can't get what they are thinking on paper quick enough and at nine there's plenty time for improvement .

I remember a friend remarking about her son's dreadful handwriting at about that age - she blamed lack of good teaching at infant level, although my DD's seemed just fine.
However, it doesn't seem to have held him back at all as his career in the financial world earns him far more than my DD's teacher's salary.
I expect he uses a computer now anyway.

My son had dreadful writing. No full stops. Just went on and on.
He was considered poor at English. Excellent at numeracy.
His reading was fine. Primary school said he just needed to concentrate.

He made it into grammar school and worked hard at the sciences.
English still worst subject but got 4 As in the sciences. Got into uni and it was there that he himself felt something needed to be checked regarding his written work as his grades on written work did not match what he knew to be his ability. Uni arranged an assessment and he was found to be dyslexic. He was 19. Uni had a special class once a week for such students. It taught techniques and was wonderful. He came first in his year at graduation.
He went on to do his Phd. with sponsorship. After diagnosis he was allowed an extra ten minutes in the hour for exams. And was also provided with a personal pc, printer, etc so as not to have to queue for the library computers. This was many years ago.

I'm so sorry that the dyslexia was not picked up in primary school as he at that time struggled so much with the written word and the structure.

Please insist on an assessment. There is everything to gain.

Having looked at this I would ask the school for a proper assessment of your GD. I suspect she may be dyslexic. I know this is commonly seen as a reading problem, but it is much more complex and some of this writing makes me suspect this may be the problem. She is reversing some letters and her spelling is insecure. That said she obviously has some good ideas. One of the troubles with dyslexia is that the children are often very bright but struggle to present their ideas. Once they get the help they need they come on with amazing speed.
Good luck.

Trisher, I too also wondered about dyspraxia.

Morethan here are some sites from where you can download pencil control worksheets. Has her mum spoken to your granddaughter's teacher about her concerns? My daughter was dyslexic and her handwriting was almost illegible. She was also very disorganised and messy. As a teacher, I had lots of concerns. Her own teacher was quite dismissive, but I insisted that she was assessed by the child psychologist and lo and behold, dyslexic and dyspraxic. However, it t didn't stop her going to university, with lots of help in place.

www.activityvillage.co.uk/tracing-printables
www.marnel-inf.hants.sch.uk/pencil-control-activities/
www.twinkl.co.uk/resource/t-l-154-pencil-control-worksheets

Excellent reply trisher. DGS, nearly 8 years old, is only just usually holding a pen/pencil in a manner that will help him write recognisable letters. Do your granddaughter's teachers not pick up on her handwriting skills - or shortage of them? Personally I do not think her writing is illegible, rather that she is thinking quicker than she can write.

' you can buy special holders that fit on the pencil and help develop good habits ' We got some of these for DGS but he finds them very awkward and does better with a triangular pencil. DS has recently got him a stylus to use on an Ipad and he is showing, and more importantly for DGS I think, seeing a difference, in that he can recognise the letters he writes himself.

I know it's the 'computer generation' and has been for many years now, but legible handwriting is still important.

I don't want to worry you but this is nowhere near the standard I would have expected for a nine year old. It is quite fuzzy on my iPad but I notice that the spelling is not good and there is reversal of letters. I'm assuming it should read Leonard and not Leonarb.
I think there is more to this than fine motor control or even dyspraxia. If I'm honest, if the school has said she is not behind then I would be a bit worried about the level of expectation at the school. I know that sounds brutal but as a teacher I would have been concerned about work of this level in an intelligent child from a supportive background.
Has the school arranged any extra help?

She has really good gross motor skills and there's no indication of dyspraxia that I've seen. She dances, horse rides, rides a bike and goes to gymnastics and is as accomplished as her peers in all those activities. Thanks for the advice I'll be seeing a lot of her during the school holidays so I'll set up a little office for her and encourage playing school and offices.

Firstly how are her other skills? Things like riding a bike, skipping, -large motor skills and fastening buttons, sewing, manipulating small things- fine motor skills? She may have a problem called dyspraxia, if she seems very clumsy and has problems doing things. If this is the case you could ask the school to get her assessed.
You can still work on her writing, I suggest you start with looking at how she holds her pencil, you can buy special holders that fit on the pencil and help develop good habits. Then you could go right back to basics and begin by simply getting her to copy patterns, zig zags curves, vertical and horizontal lines. Also encourage her to paint and draw. Then move on to letter formation .
That said she may not improve a great deal. If her lack of ability is affecting the work she produces it might be worth asking the school about her using a computer for some of her work.

morethan my DGC has appalling handwriting as do I and my DH. My DGC took typing lessons and is allowed a tablet in class to do homework on. DGC spent so long trying to write legible letters that classwork fell behind. Lots of children in my DGC classes (now age 13) are allowed to use tablet. Try asking.

And this

Is she right or left-handed?

Hope you can see this

A bit hard to comment without an example. Can you upload one?