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Serkeen Mon 16-Oct-17 11:49:23

www.msn.com/en-gb/lifestyle/family-relationships/new-mum-furious-after-mother-in-law-sneaks-into-ward-and-holds-baby-first/ar-AAtkgR4?li=AAmiR2Z&ocid=spartanntp

Bridgeit Tue 17-Oct-17 11:57:12

Yes Annsixty, that's a difficult one isn't it, I guess we all turn a blind eye when it suits us to.. presumably MIL knew she was breaking rules, It happens in al walks of life I'm sure .

annsixty Tue 17-Oct-17 11:54:23

Bridgeit I was referring to all the calls to get Mil sacked.
How can any relationship survive That?

Bridgeit Tue 17-Oct-17 11:54:01

I have just re read the original report, I guess it will have caused a bit of a problem with the lady & her husband , I wonder why he didn't hold his baby rather than his mum , or perhaps he did, seems like we have all got on the bandwagon for something we don't actually know the real facts about.

sharkgirl Tue 17-Oct-17 11:50:29

I'd have much rather have had this experience than my own mother, who couldn't possibly get to the hospital (3 miles away) when my 2nd (obvs less important) son was born and only visited for the first time when I got home, even then she didn't take her black leather gloves off when she did eventually hold him for the first time. Cold vs warm.

Bridgeit Tue 17-Oct-17 11:48:53

Ohh come on Annesixty, perhaps you have been lucky enough not to have faced having your wishes ignored by those who are supposed to be nearest & dearest to you. You are now making out that this is a fore runner for the rest of Dil & Mils life, which it well could be if Mil continues to ignore Dils wishes .If you can't have have your wishes respected at such a personal, emotional time when can you have them respected!

maryeliza54 Tue 17-Oct-17 11:47:36

She wouldn’t be sacked for that unless she had some prior misuse of her position against her name.

radicalnan Tue 17-Oct-17 11:43:00

According to the article, the mother had emergency C section and the babies father rang his mother and asked for support. She did what she could to reassure him and used her position to do so. I suppose father's feelings don't count at all and the fact that he had concerns counts for nothing. Mothers now are just so flakey about things.

I see mothers on here touting for support when presumably they have had short shift on Mums net, hawking their nonsensical issues about until someone agrees with them.

I can't see that anything has happened that shouldn't, the MIL was asked by her son, in her shoes I would have done the same.

annsixty Tue 17-Oct-17 11:38:29

Imagine getting a member of your family sacked ,for whatever reason.
6 years on, mummy why don't I have a Grandma like all my friends?
Because she dared to hold you before I did, so I got her dismissed and ruined her career and now we have a totally fractured family.

trisher Tue 17-Oct-17 11:37:22

My mum visited me in hospital when my DCs were born and always asked if she could pick them up- never just expected to- but perhaps she knew how protective a new mum feels and I always asked my DIL for the same reason.
Still don't understand why this woman didn't give her son a cuddle, he was the one who called for her and was upset. He needed the hug.

MawBroon Tue 17-Oct-17 11:31:54

Oh we will never know the objective facts will we and does it matter? But there is still the unexplained element such as it seems the new father SUMMONED his MOTHER for (presumably) moral support after an emergency section. So she was there at his request, she didn’t “barge in” abusing her position. I think fathers’ wishes count along with mothers’ actually. No?
I was also taken to task by maryeliza
I hate the phrase ‘proud grandmother
Oh dear.
Hands up anybody else here who is proud to be a grandmother?
Oh, not just me then hmm
This is such a storm in a teacup.
Read paddyann’s story of 12.55 sad and think again about what really matters amongst all the posturing and name calling ( for instance, Bibbity it was entirely out of order to refer to a woman you know NOTHING about as a “Bitch”)
And I wonder if the same hoo-ha would have been made if it had been her own mother
However be that as it may, I am sure we are all grateful this issue —of major(?) importance— has been brought to our attention.
Imagine if we had missed it?

trisher Tue 17-Oct-17 11:31:47

I am a MIL and only ever will be as I have 3 DSs, but I don't think it is demonising them to criticise someone who misuses her professional position in order to do something like this. I think it's being sensitive to a DIL and appreciating that our GCs are our GCs and not our DCs

lemongrove Tue 17-Oct-17 11:20:55

annsixty you must be used to GN by now? and MN? ?
Threads about stories that may or may not be true, due to sensationalised reporting featuring MIL’s abound, and the ever present desire to demonise them must be deep in the psyche.

Bridgeit Tue 17-Oct-17 11:19:53

Why didn't Mil if she was misusing her authority simply use her position & entrance card to pop in to her Dil and ask if she was ok & would she like her to check in on the baby.?

Bibbity Tue 17-Oct-17 11:16:13

I would absolutely demand she was fired.

She used her hospital access. Which was gross misconduct. And broke a whole host of violations.
Drs are not Gods regardless of what some may believe. They are absolutely accountable to their actions.

annsixty Tue 17-Oct-17 11:15:19

I have never known a thread so devicive as this one is.
Absolutely black and white, no shades of grey.

busylizzy Tue 17-Oct-17 11:11:17

I can't believe how vindictive some people are being here! Yes, the parents wishes should have been respected of course. I wonder just how clear the request for no visits for 24 hours was made to family members. Such emotive language, sneaked in, grabbed baby. Yes, if she had been told loud and clear not to vistit she was in the wrong, and should apologise sincerely. If not, or if the conversation with son led her to believe that because of the trauma of the birth the situation had changed, then it may have been a genuine misunderstanding, in which case what is the problem with her using her pass instead of buzzing to gain access? Did she demand information from members of staff about the mother or baby's condition? - in which case there would be questions to answer by both her and the staff. But. ....to demand that she is fired is extreme! Are we going to deny all other patient in the hospital the services of this doctor because of an error of judgement at such an emotional time? How many people will suffer then? As for the poor father, the damage that would do to his family relationships is unimaginable. Think of the child denied a relationship with its patrenal grandmother. Try explaining that one to him when he is grown up. And all for a hurt that could be healed with time and love.

Rolande Tue 17-Oct-17 11:06:41

Totally agree you BlueBelle. Interfering busybody!

Wished I had had a mother in law that was near enough to hold my children. She IS the grand-mother for heaven's sakes..not a stranger.

"Our children are not our possession, they are entrusted to us to care for until they can independently live in this world".

trisher Tue 17-Oct-17 11:06:38

I do hope the mums are laughing with you Coconutand not just gritting their teeth and being polite. Otherwise one day they might blurt out their real feelings.

Bridgeit Tue 17-Oct-17 11:04:39

Coconut the mum knew you were there, this poor lady was being stitched up hadn't spent time with her new born, I know how upsetting that is & to find out that someone else other than medical staff is filling that role , even if you are grateful for your new born being cared for ,it is still emotionally very upsetting trust me !

lemongrove Tue 17-Oct-17 11:00:13

Exactly coconut in fact this whole story is silly from start to finish.
May not even be true, any of it.
If it is, so what, hardly news is it.

Coconut Tue 17-Oct-17 10:56:45

This is so silly, does it really matter ! I take great delight in telling 3 of my grandkids that I was the 1st one to ever see their little faces ! Obviously the Mums were flat on their backs, and the Daddies chose to be at the top end of the bed not the interesting end ! We just laugh about it !

Bridgeit Tue 17-Oct-17 10:52:05

Mother in law over stepped the mark , 'end of 'as they say these day. Good luck to the new mum , she will need to set some boundaries with her overbearing Mil .

Teddy123 Tue 17-Oct-17 10:51:33

I'm with Anya and christinefrance on this one.
I would be thanking God that baby had loving arms giving a quick cuddle.

My twins were 8 weeks prem and in special care for 6 weeks. My parents & MIL only got to stare at them through a window! I was wheeled up to SCBU that evening ..... A surreal experience ??

Bibbity Tue 17-Oct-17 10:45:06

'being a MIL should be enough because what do these precious, entitled young women know with their silly ideas about bonding and their ludicrous ideas that they have some say in who holds their new babies and when?'

And what about the truly laughable and ridiculous sense of self worth that some Grandparents have?!
The most important person in that situation was the mother. The baby was safe and cared for.
Seriously it's ridiculous how some people believe they're but so desperately important.
You're not.

A majority of GPs are so very loved, so very cherished.
But no. In this situation she was a selfish bitch.
Many GPs on this thread alone need to get over themselves.
So what a new generation have grown their wings and become independent.
How dare they deccide not to hold onto you?!
And people wonder why there are masses of treads about distant AC and GC. Well duh if you keep forcing yourself into situations your not wanted them they're going to back away.

sarahellenwhitney Tue 17-Oct-17 10:44:35

Bluebelle. Carrying a new life for nine months why shouldn't the parents be the first to hold their child.?
The midwife/ doctor/ nurse being the first to hold the child is not the same it is their responsibility to ensure baby is ok.
As long as the new mum is not under sedation then that is up to her.