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gmelon Thu 21-Dec-17 16:02:14

When oh when did the word "you" get replaced with "yourself" ?
Also the waiters and waitresses that ask " what can I get for yourselves today".
Did the younger folks change the use of English language while I had my back turned?

sarahellenwhitney Fri 22-Dec-17 20:31:05

Amazing .How many times is this used. A word that should be used when describing that which is ' unusual' but rarely does.

Daisyboots Fri 22-Dec-17 22:17:51

I agree with all the above and one that really annoys me is 'I'm bored of' instead of 'I'm bored with'.
One of my daughters now lives in Suffolk and she misses whole words out when speaking or writing copying her local friends.

Purpledaffodil Sat 23-Dec-17 10:03:22

Daisyboots I agree about bored of instead of bored with. DD who is a grammar nazi in most other things uses it too and DGS aged 7 now does. I suspect it is one of those changes in language which is now acceptable.?

frankie74 Sat 23-Dec-17 11:08:06

I once intercepted a note being passed round my classroom. It read "Sign here if your really bored of this lesson" The culprit owned up and I had him write it out correctly 100 times in his lunchbreak. I wonder if he still makes "your" and "bored of" mistakes. Probably!

FarNorth Sat 23-Dec-17 11:18:08

But 'tired of' is okay. Why?

HannahLoisLuke Sat 23-Dec-17 13:09:05

Bluebell and MissA, that's my beef too. A caller to Radio5live this morning announced "we are twenty weeks pregnant" to which the presenter responded "We? And how are "we" feeling?" The caller was male.

HannahLoisLuke Sat 23-Dec-17 13:12:21

Purple daffodil, I think bored of is acceptable as I hear it used by all sorts of well educated people.
I always thought 'of an evening' was incorrect until I read it in various classic novels.

MaggieMay60 Sat 23-Dec-17 13:37:07

I hate it when someone says cheers instead of thank you!

NannyKasey Sat 23-Dec-17 17:12:22

MaggieMay60 - you obviously don't live in Bristol as almost everyone says 'Cheers' (or 'Churz' when spoken with the Brizzle accent) coupled with 'Drive' when they get off the bus. grin
Like the OP I hate the use of 'myself' and 'yourself' instead of 'me' and 'you'. As bad is the use of 'authored' instead of 'wrote' and 'medalled' rather than 'win a medal' hmm

watermeadow Sat 23-Dec-17 19:51:34

Haven’t read all this thread, has anyone mentioned that Mother and Father have been replaced everywhere by Mum and Dad?
I also dislike “See you later” by way of “Goodbye.” No, I shan’t see you later.
“I’m alright” now means “No thanks”
Galloping Americanisation from the police and ambulance services give us “We mobilised to an accident” and “Three males” or “An elderly female.” Why not men and women? Also, man has been largely replaced by Gentleman, even if describing someone who was certainly no gentleman.

NotTooOld Sat 23-Dec-17 22:46:22

Maggie grin

JuliaSeizer44 Sun 24-Dec-17 01:51:04

'Miss, can I go toilet?"

JuliaSeizer44 Sun 24-Dec-17 04:01:02

So many have alluded to the lack of grammar teaching in schools. Yes, yes and yes. Years ago, as an older MFL teacher doing a long term supply, I asked my (impossibly young) HOD how she would like me to approach grammar for the GCSE French class. A little flustered and blushing, she told me that she had never learned grammar at school and had no idea how to teach it. "I tell them that if it sounds right, it is right" said she. WTAF? I went right back to basics, taught subject, object, predicate, verb, tenses, sentence structure and use of clauses, possessive and demonstrative adjectives and pronouns and so on...also use of Latin prefixes and suffixes, the history of the English language, with particular reference to French connections (they were unaware of the Norman invasion), language families-you name it. They were fascinated and so grateful to be able to apply some analysis to their learning. My Latin students tell me they learn more about how language works in their first year of Latin than in their English classes. We are reaping the harvest of ridding the English syllabus of a robust grammar base 40 years ago. A tragedy, indeed.

AnnaKat Sun 24-Dec-17 05:34:13

Pin number gets a grrr from me.
My top two has got to be
1. "The" Asda - I m going to the Asda and not I'm going to Asda
2., Literally - I literally just caught the bus (no you didn't, because you would be squashed) grin grin grin

jura2 Sun 24-Dec-17 12:36:39

Comes from Ireland, no?

frankie74 Sun 24-Dec-17 13:13:47

JuliaSeizer44 - agree! {grin]

frankie74 Sun 24-Dec-17 13:14:14

grin

NannyTee Sun 24-Dec-17 16:12:56

"Where's me coat"? ...." I never done it "....."Gizza taste " grrrr

Grampie Wed 27-Dec-17 10:00:08

Will we ever recover from the era of "spelling and grammar doesn't matter"?

NannyTee Wed 27-Dec-17 10:01:40

No grin

Grampie Wed 27-Dec-17 10:50:08

...and we wonder what happened to social mobility:

blog.hubspot.com/marketing/grammar-data-promotion

Elegran Wed 27-Dec-17 11:21:19

Grampy At the moment there is an air about of "Whoever reads this can take all the trouble to work out what I mean"

Free education for all was supposed to mean that everyone had the tools to undertake any job they went for. They would get literacy, numeracy, general knowledge and the ability to organise their time and skills, and after that the social mobility would be up to them - if they wanted it, they could go for it.

That acquisition of education has two parts who have to work together for it to succeed - the teacher/system and the pupil. Quite a lot of pupils now seem to believe that how much they learn is all up to the teacher. Meanwhile a lot of teachers are still suffering from the legacy of the no-grammar years.

That article shows how important basic literacy is. As it says " Few areas of the workplace are untouched by grammar in some way; even if your job doesn’t directly involve writing, chances are you’ll still need to communicate in writing with your co-workers, management, and clients or customers at some point."

SiobhanSharpe Wed 27-Dec-17 11:46:12

My current bugbear is that we seem to have lost the difference between 'the' pronounced thee and 'the' pronounced thuh or 'th' -- as in "the apple" and "thuh tree"
I clearly remember being taught that it's 'th before a word beginning with a vowel and th' for a word starting with a consonant.
The number of times I hear 'thuh EU' drives me mad. Not only does it sound disjointed, clumsy and just plain ugly, it's actually easier, and certainly more mellifluous, to say 'thee EU' . (And newsreaders seem to be the main culprits. So much so that I wonder if the BBC has issued an edict decreeing it's 'thuh EU' / thuh event' etc. )

SiobhanSharpe Wed 27-Dec-17 11:49:37

AGH ....THEE before a word beginning with a vowel... Sheesh. It's harder to write than to say!

vampirequeen Wed 27-Dec-17 11:54:35

Just realised I hate the way DD2 says 'Cheers' instead of 'thank you'. Arrrrggggghhhhhh.