Behaviour of dgd

Yes confused too by 4 coming up 6?typo error maybe? Could be any number of things- but is she like this rest of time?if so maybe a chat with gp may help? If not could be holiday- could be bored its her hols too!

I honestly honestly don’t mean this in a nasty way, but this is what happens when you have children, some times your holiday will be spoilt. Unfortunately family holidays will mainly be centred around the children, it’s the way it goes. Maybe if you think it at all possible you could have your granddaughter over a weekend so your daughter and her husband can have a couple of nights away doing what they would like to do. I know it doesn’t seem fair but children take a lot of entertaining and I think if she’s bored then she will play up more

GabriellaG Typical teacher idea...dreadful. Today 12:05 GabriellaG That was for hatpev

Don’t take any notice hatpev. It’s fairly typical of Gabriella’s rude responses to anything she disagrees with.
Your idea made sense to me. My DGS(7) has just been to stay for a week with my DS and my DD and her two children(7 and 4), so it had the potential to be fairly chaotic.
What worked was to tell the children well in advance what the day’s plans were, they could then have a clear picture of what we were going to be doing, and they were all surprisingly cooperative.

I'd bring out the reins again if she's running away. Or put her in the seat on the trolley. She won't like it but she's old enough to understand that choices (to be naughty) have consequences

hatpev - hatty town? Hatfield Peverel?

sorry Chinesecrested I don’t agree with that at all to put a child of 5 nearly 6 on reins is humiliating, and cruel and will only make her more angry or upset

I would still like Ethel to say if the daughters partner is the child’s father or a newer relationship as that can have a lot of bearing on a child’s behaviour

North Yorkshire is beautiful. Lots to do for all ages!!

janeainsworth
Who are you to tell another poster to ignore what I wrote...eh?
My view is just as valid and is just that, my view. What worked for your, my or anyone elses children, matters not a jot.
To expect all young children to keep to a timetable at 5 years old is in my view, ridiculous and as for winding down after lunch...that's for old ladies, not children with energy to burn.
If you think my reply was rude, you have no idea what rude is.
BTW, it is typical of teachers to 'organise'.

Shopping with a child is inevitable sometimes - can they not get her involved in choosing items, involve her instead of always expecting her to be good and behave.

Constantly being told off and trying to make her conform, walk nicely next to you isn't going to happen if she's bored - children need to be interested and engaged even if the activity is boring, like shopping.

Guilty as charged GG! I love organising stuff.

Can I ask what you did for a living?

Who are you to tell another poster to ignore what I wrote...eh? My view is just as valid and is just that, my view
I can post what I like on these forums gabriella as I’m a member of Gransnet just like you, as long as I observe forum etiquette.
Of course you can say what you like too, but it’s a pity you often have to express yourself so abrasively and that you feel you can dismiss the entire teaching profession with a sweeping generalisation and your barbed comments.
I haven’t seen hatpev on here before o if you’re a new poster hp welcome to Gransnet.

She sounds like a bright cookie - she's running rings round all of you!

Eglantine21
A lawyer (LL.M Eur)
Father was a headmaster. I understand organisation but it doesn't work for everyone.

janeainsworth
Touché
I don't sugar-coat my thoughts. The poster made no comment to me but you objected. Lol.

My concern was that as hatpev was probably a new poster, you might have scared her off, gabriella. That might be why she hasn’t returned to the thread.
It’s not always easy to see how one’s comments might be viewed by others, and particularly by the person they’re aimed at.

I agree with Bluebelle. Keeping her occupied and busy will keep her calmer and even give her a sense of satisfaction. Children love a wee project and usually respond well.

Actually, I thought that hatpev's suggestion of getting the child to draw a series of post-its of what they're going to do was quite a good one - she will get some undivided attention from one of the adults whilst they chat about what they are going to do the next day and she can be busy drawing the pictures.

My DS and DIL always enjoyed luxurious, calm holidays before they had children and they tried once, just once, to have the same kind of holiday with them. It was a disaster! Bored, fractious children wore everyone down. Now they go on holidays sites where it's more child centric. The children are entertained most of the day in activities, swimming, discos etc and are ready for their beds by 8 o'clock, leaving the evenings free for a film and glass of wine or two for the parents. It won't be forever, but young parents have to adapt when they have children.

Im so glad ive got gnet to talk to. Thank you x

Naughty behaviour is usually attention-seeking - if she has lots of positive attention then I hope things improve for your family ethel

janeainsworth
I unreservedly apologise to you, for upsetting you with my reply to another poster, and to the OP concerned.
We none of us know each other despite some GNers organising meetups, therefore there is always the risk of upsetting someone depending on their mood of the day.
I can't, in truth, apologise for the content of my original reply to hp as the same tarring goes on re bankers, estate agents, polititians, lawyers and many others.
It might be a good idea to avoid reading my comments as they seem to fall short of your moderation standards.
I hope this draws a line under the matter.

It might be a good idea to avoid reading my comments as they seem to fall short of your moderation standards
I usually do?

How amusing on a post about childrens behaviour some of the posters are squabbling .

We weren't allowed to be bored and fractious on our family holidays!
We were told, and appreciated, that it was our parents holiday too.

There are children .... and children. Some love nature and country walks, others find them interminably boring!!

When my son was quite young he seemed very difficult - compared to other youngsters. He had a very short attention span and loads of energy. So some of his actions were quite naughty - or not what I and other adults wanted.

Farm holidays were reasonably interesting for him - sitting on tractors, seeing wildlife etc. but he really wanted to watch TV.

We came to a sort of compromise. But in retrospect, a holiday park would have been better. It might have been that I couldn't afford it then. I know he enjoyed visits to local parks and summer holiday activities.

I did have a partner who was upset by noise and having the telly on in the evenings on holiday, but I now think that if you take a child on holiday you need to make sure they are happy and entertained. Needless to say my son, in his 40s, is not now glued to the TV every evening!! And playing computer games later secured a very lucrative job in the industry!!

Holidays are magical times for children and now I love to join in activities (often too old to do them ).

All the evidence is that ignoring bad behaviour and praising good behaviour is productive. Also, I like the idea of the child producing a plan for the next day's outings. Sometimes we had to admit that they didn't work out, but they often did.