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etheltbags1 Mon 13-Aug-18 17:31:33

My dd and partner are on holiday. Dgd has been really badly behaved dd is at her wits end. I dont know how to help. Little one has been getting worse lately will not do as shes told. She wont come back. Runs off in supermarket.tells us she hates us.kicks.bites. there is nothing we can do to stop her. She wont listen. She will sit on the naughty step laughing at us. I had to restrain her in the shop with 2 hands so dd could go thro checkout. It is do unfair that dd should have her holiday spoiled like this.we asked dgd to be good. What on earth has got into her.

petra Mon 13-Aug-18 21:06:37

i took her to a party and she ignored me almost the whole time
I hope she did she's 5!!!
Thank goodness the poor little thing has some fun grandparents, she's never going to see Disneyland with your side of the family is she?

paddyann Mon 13-Aug-18 20:32:09

looks like the parents are having a holiday that suits them and the child comes a very poor second.They need to put some effort into making it enjoyable for her.Do they even chat to her or are they on their phones and laptops all day? She sounds like a very bored wee girl to me .

Nanabilly Mon 13-Aug-18 20:22:19

I don't think you are going to like what I'm going to say but hey ho !!
Children's had behaviour is very often down to bad parenting so less of the dd and tell her to get her act together .The sil needs his head banging too . Together they are causing one little child masses of confusion and sadness. It is up to them to take a good honest look at themselves and their own behaviours and see what's gone wrong and to then decide together what they are going to do about it and if they don't they could be nurturing one complete and utter tearaway of the future who will only get worse with time.
Whatever that poor child is doing is learned behaviour so someone she sees on a regular basis has bad temper tantrums and she sees that person get their own way by doing it so she copies.
Do not blame the child
Do not blame the other set of grandparents.
Blame her mummy and daddy they have created this little terror and it is up to them to sort it out ...
With kindness
With patience
With consistency
With love
With togetherness
With rules
With set boundaries
And with acceptance of their own wrongdoings.

FlexibleFriend Mon 13-Aug-18 20:04:14

Sounds like not a whole lot of fun if this is their idea of a summer holiday. Maybe they could talk to her and find out what she would like apart from Disneyland. It's not too late for some fun days out and if she misbehaves in the mean time tell her those fun days out will be cancelled.

Jalima1108 Mon 13-Aug-18 19:56:10

There are plenty of child based activities and other attractions she may enjoy; animal parks, train rides, children's playing grounds etc. There will be plenty of leaflets, possibly in the house, but certainly at the local Information Office.
Yes - it's not too late to introduce some child-oriented fun into the holiday

muffinthemoo Mon 13-Aug-18 19:55:04

This will continue for as long as the other GPs are allowed by SIL to undermine DD’s rules.

Please tell me they aren’t DD’s childcare...

Jalima1108 Mon 13-Aug-18 19:54:28

They are in yorkshire somewhere with a holiday cottage. Just her and parents.
That sounds like a lovely peaceful holiday for a couple but not much fun for a five year old.
Poor child must be bored silly and the parents must be at their wits' end trying to keep her happy and entertained.

What's wrong with the seaside? You don't have to go anywhere really busy - a holiday flat or caravan on a quietish site, the beach, a play park, other children to play with?
No wonder she's playing up.

Bluebelle. What kind of holiday can appeal to grown ups and kids. Dd runs herself ragged to try to please partner and child.
When you have children holidays are really more about them than you - plenty of time for 'couples' holidays before children and after they decide they don't want to come with you any more.

M0nica Mon 13-Aug-18 19:54:11

I had a very wilful DD, who, I often felt, had read all the baby books in the womb and knew all about this naughty step/discuss behaviour with her etc etc type discipline, and treated it with contempt. In the end I started withdrawing privileges/mild bribery.

On holiday, it could be a statement before going to the supermarket such as 'If you behave properly here and do not run away from M &D, we will go to the park and have an ice cream.' If she does run away, this treat is cancelled. There will, of course, be an almighty tantrum. This should be ignored, no pleading with or trying to placate. Just ignore it and talk among yourselves until she calms down and the day can continue.

It will take time, but she will eventually get the message.

Like others I must admit that a 4-5 year old on holiday in a cottage with her parents, all her toys and books at home, is going to get very bored. Her parents should be including one child orientated activity into their holiday every day.

We had this type of holiday, but always made sure that DC's interests and occupation were catered for. There are plenty of child based activities and other attractions she may enjoy; animal parks, train rides, children's playing grounds etc. There will be plenty of leaflets, possibly in the house, but certainly at the local Information Office.

etheltbags1 Mon 13-Aug-18 19:50:19

Bluebelle. What kind of holiday can appeal to grown ups and kids. Dd runs herself ragged to try to please partner and child. They went to a holiday centre earlier this year but i went and i was happy to babysit. The grown ups really dont like the noise and bustle of the holiday park. Anyone got a magic wand. I must have the most dysfunctional family ever

MissAdventure Mon 13-Aug-18 19:35:19

Its not just on this holiday though.
It sounds like there aren't too many boundaries imposed for her to push, and children soon find any loophole in their parents discipline ideas.

FlexibleFriend Mon 13-Aug-18 19:29:41

Well that's not what your average 5 year old would choose for a holiday so I dunno why they're surprised she's playing up.

BlueBelle Mon 13-Aug-18 18:42:02

She’d will be bored out of her head with mum and dad in a cottage sorry to say this but that’s a grown ups holiday not a 5 year olds idea of fun

etheltbags1 Mon 13-Aug-18 18:17:15

She is 5 nearly 6. They are in yorkshire somewhere with a holiday cottage. Just her and parents. The other gp s want to take her to disneyland. I am horrifies as she runs off so much. She has no fear of anyone or anything.

FlexibleFriend Mon 13-Aug-18 18:09:15

So where is dad? why is he not entertaining his daughter while mum does the shopping or better still he could do the shopping.
Supermarkets are not the place for a showdown so avoid them. She's on holiday and holidays should be fun so someone needs to organise some fun while the other adult does the chores. I don't blame her acting up, sounds to me like dad's not pulling his weight.

BlueBelle Mon 13-Aug-18 18:09:11

Blimey sorry ‘ very bright and probably bored’
Oh for an edit button GN

BlueBelle Mon 13-Aug-18 18:08:05

Your other post wasn’t there when I posted my one so now I know they are away on their own You can’t do anything from afar I would think she scvery bright and probably bothered and not knowing what to put her energies into

Jalima1108 Mon 13-Aug-18 18:06:15

Where are they and is there a holiday club so that she can play with other children?

It's hard work taking little children on holiday - even when you're young.

BlueBelle Mon 13-Aug-18 18:05:00

I m not surprised your granddaughter acting up she’s obviously very confused ^she 4 coming up to 6 in December^???
Seriously though you re not giving much info are they on holiday at home, away, overseas, altogether, just mum and dad?
If mum and dad can’t agree on how to bring her up and if both grandparents are at polar ends she will be confused and act up there definitely needs some continuity or she will just get worse as she gets older

Jalima1108 Mon 13-Aug-18 18:03:03

My goodness, she's pushing the boundaries!! Kind firmness and don't give in imo.

Of course, after a year at school they are extremely tired at the end of the summer term.

etheltbags1 Mon 13-Aug-18 18:01:46

Im not with them or i would look after her to let dd and him go off for the day. Dd txt me sounding at her wits end. Dgd might be bored without the structure of her day. She goes back into year 1 in september. Shes quite bright reads and writes well and can do simple percentages and counting etc. She was bad before the hols. I took her to a party and she ignored me almost the whole time refusing to go home till everyone else had gone. I just wish there was a boundary beyond which she cannot go.

Jalima1108 Mon 13-Aug-18 18:01:12

She'll be starting school in September then ethel!!
Not long to go smile

FlexibleFriend Mon 13-Aug-18 17:53:02

I don't understand 4 coming up 6, what?
Are you all on holiday together Gd, daughter you her dad and other GP's ?
If so I'd gladly dump her on those that spoil her and let them deal with her.
If her partner won't back her up leave him to deal with her.
Wash your hands of her behaviour, they've created it so let them sort it out while you two take yourselves off somewhere nice every day.

Jalima1108 Mon 13-Aug-18 17:51:35

Make life fun - and you may find that you and your DD enjoy the holiday too.

Willow500 Mon 13-Aug-18 17:50:31

Is she always like this or is it something that happens at odd times - wondering if she could be allergic to one of the food additives. It sounds as if she's hyper which might be triggered by something in a drink or food. Has she just started school recently and maybe being bullied so taking it out on her parents. My eldest granddaughter was badly bullied at 5 and they had to move schools unbelievably at that age!

No real help I'm afraid - how sad your daughter's holiday is being spoiled though.

Jalima1108 Mon 13-Aug-18 17:49:50

If she's not normally like this then it could be the change in routine as wildswan16 says.
Can you find some holiday activities that she will enjoy - are you at the seaside? Could you take her on the beach to make sandcastles while her mum does the food shopping? Find a play park so that she can run around and get rid of some pent-up energy?

My younger DGD used to like the naughty step and take herself off to sit on it when she knew she'd overstepped the boundaries, whereas DGS would howl and make an enormous fuss if made to sit there to calm down!

Asking her to be good may not be the right tactic imo - trykeeping her busy and happy doing things she enjoys. Even supermarket shopping can be made enjoyable if you chat, let her choose some fruit she likes, help to put things in the trolley etc.