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Coppernob Sat 25-Aug-18 19:29:38

At the beginning of July I had minor day surgery on my knee. Unfortunately the wound became infected and for the past 5 weeks I have been on strong iv and then oral antibiotics. These have been making me feel pretty grim, but thankfully, as the knee is now much improved, my surgeon has said I can stop taking them from next Monday.

I have been told that I should take probiotics to replace the good bugs in my gut. I would greatly value recommendations from those who know about such things as to what it is best to take - tablets, a drink such as Yakult, probiotic yogurts, all of the above or something different? Whatever I take needs to be fat free. Any advice would be gratefully received.

janemar Sat 25-Aug-18 19:40:07

I did not like the Yakult drinks, I take acidophilus from Holland and Barrett or Multibionta vitality which has a gastro resistant coating so they work in the gut. I prefer the Multibionta as it is also a multi vitamin.

mimiro Sat 25-Aug-18 19:40:45

fancy yogurt are a joke.just some real naturally made yogurt will have the "probiotics" also cottage cheese(curds and whey"is another source.
had sepsis years ago and a sensible doctor turn me on to the whole thing after being on iv antibiotics for a system healed in a very short time.destroyed my teeth tho.if you have a middleeastern or greek or mediteranian deli around some make thier own yogurt.i used to get mine from a lebenese bakery!
the only problem i see is the fat free part.i dont know if its real if it doesn't have fat. sorry for misspells am in a hurry
heres a link with some info

cornergran Sat 25-Aug-18 19:44:27

I was advised acidophilus by a nutritionist after taking antibiotics for 6 months. Worked for me.

petra Sat 25-Aug-18 20:29:12

Im on a 3 month Symprove programme.
This is a highly recommended product and I can't believe how much better I feel.

Sparklefizz Sat 25-Aug-18 20:35:12

petra I am interested in that. Are you in the UK and is the programme on the NHS?

Sparklefizz Sat 25-Aug-18 20:37:05

copperknob I take Bio Kult. They are brilliant, contain much more than just Acidophilus but many different varieties of probiotics. They are expensive but excellent quality. Available on Amazon but prices can vary.

DanniRae Sat 25-Aug-18 21:06:12

Sparklefizz - I have just started taking Bio Kult after reading about it a magazine. Early days yet but I was glad to read that you recommend it. I got mine from Boots.

petra Sat 25-Aug-18 21:34:27

Yes I am in the uk. I picked up on Symprove reading an article by Dr Rangan Chatterjee, who is a GP who recommends it to his patients. Also one of the Van Tulleken twins (Drs)
As for getting it on the NHS, I don't know. I suppose it would depend on how your Dr feels about such products.

MargaretX Sat 25-Aug-18 22:02:43

Probiotics in Joghurt don't survive the stomach acid, they only improve the finances of the firm making them.

Acidophilus in concentrated form are the best it is the only way and lots of different foods to create a healthy gut.

stella1949 Sun 26-Aug-18 01:11:43

You don't have to use any fancy or expensive products. All you need to to is to replace the "good" flora in your gut , which is easily achieved by eating some yogurt every day. Select one that you like and eat a serving each day - problem solved.

OldMeg Sun 26-Aug-18 06:50:05

You need more than acidophilus to repopulate your gut. Look for probiotics that contain several strains of gut bacteria in pill form.

OldMeg Sun 26-Aug-18 06:52:19

I believe Bio Kult contains 14 different strains.

M0nica Sun 26-Aug-18 09:29:18

I am another who would recommend Symprove. DD was on very high doses of antibiotics for several months after an accident. It left her with all kinds of gastric problems, including food intolerances.

Over several years she tried everything from probiotic foods to everything in Holland and Barrett without any relief. In the end she discovered Sympruve and did the three month course Petra mentioned. The results were fantastic. Her life is now back to normal.

It isn't cheap, but it really got her life back on the rails again.

PamelaJ1 Sun 26-Aug-18 09:47:37

I was on a special Dietfor my skin. I took caprylic acid to kill the bad bacteria and acidophilus to bost the good. When you’ve got that sorted a very wide and varied diet is recommended.
Petra I did go to my Dr. but he just poo pooed it all.

petra Sun 26-Aug-18 11:46:10

Your Dr should should get up to speed with this product.
They are 'experimenting' in some hospitals to replace antibiotics.
There is evidence where it is helping people with depression because there is a lot of evidence that depression starts in our '2nd brain' our gut.
I'm sure my Dr would have an open mind on this product as he recommends fresh turmeric for arthritis.

starbird Sun 26-Aug-18 12:03:51

I have heard that Keffir (mostly dairy items) and kombucha (tea and other products) are good for the gut too.

Coppernob Sun 26-Aug-18 12:20:15

Lots to look into now. Thank you

M0nica Sun 26-Aug-18 22:01:16

Pamela Doctors, like all of us are prone to prejudice and ignorance, in their field of work as well as their personal lives.

I have always done my own research as well, unless my problem is blindingly obvious.

NotAGran55 Mon 27-Aug-18 07:24:17

I can thoroughly recommend the book Clever Guts by Dr Michael Moseley . It’s an easy fascinating read . I have followed his recommendations since a January when I had a course of antibiotics for a tooth abscess which gave me gut issues .

A by-product of the eating plan is a 35lb weight loss and better skin and hair .

OldMeg Mon 27-Aug-18 08:24:21

This is a fascinating area. There is a growing body of evidence that all kinds of metabolic disorders stem from poor gut bacteria.

This would tie in with conditions such as type 2 diabetes, which is often the result of poor diet, over eating, stress, poverty and/or a genetic predisposition. All these can influence your gut flora in subtle ways.

PamelaJ1 Mon 27-Aug-18 08:36:49

😂😂 Monica and Petra. I even took my research with me!
When the Drs. do their rotation they spend 12 weeks at a time in each department. I think if a subject doesn’t catch their interest then they don’t delve deeper.
I think they are also restricted in how they can help and tend to go down the traditional way. You are lucky if you get one that thinks out of the box.
The Diet Myth by Tim Spectre is a good read. All those women who either have to have or elect to have caesareans should read at least the one section on the subject.

Sparklefizz Mon 27-Aug-18 09:02:46

I recommend the book GAPS (Gut & Psychology Syndrome) by Dr Natasha Campbell McBride. It's become my gut bible as I have a number of gut illnesses which I'm clearing following certain protocols.

Dr Natasha recommends Bio Kult probiotics, by the way.

There is also a chapter on caesarean births which is probably much the same as the one you mention, PamelaJ1. The gut is our second brain and we have done a lot of damage with antibiotics. Even Hippocrates knew that all illness stemmed from the gut, and we are only just catching up smile

petra Mon 27-Aug-18 09:18:12

We don't have the saying 'gut feeling' for nothing grin

Sparklefizz Mon 27-Aug-18 13:32:36

petra You are quite right!