Seized tanker

Sunday paper analysis is that this was set up by US and they are rubbing their hands together with glee that we are getting dragged in. Still - not to worry - we will have BJ at the helm.

chewbacca why do you think people want to flee war torn or poverty stricken countries then? Possibly to get a better life? They don’t all come here btw.

Cystaltipps, I imagine people want to come to the UK for the very same reasons that you have. Personally, I don't have any objection as to who comes here; it isn't something that bothers me one way or the other. And why do you think it's relevant or necessary to to tell me They don’t all come here btw. Is there something in my post that suggests that I think they do? Or are you just looking for someone to fall out with and you picked me?

For the avoidance of doubt, or because you possibly misread my original post at 11.13 today I said "I echo a previous poster who wondered why, if we are such an unpleasant nation as olderthanmost says, why are so many people desperately trying to come here"?

Why has that prompted you to grill me on why people are escaping war torn countries? And what other reason would they have for leaving their home countries if it wasn't in search of a better life?

You clearly have an axe to grind but it isn't with me. Jog on.

Chewbacca

crystaltipps you are obviously putting your own mores and interpretation on Chewbacca's post.
Why not take issue with the poster who started this with their very odd post?

chewbacca I just get fed up with people who, when anything remotely critical about the U.K. is said, reply with” why do so many people risk their lives trying to get here if it’s so dreadful etc.” This doesn’t address the point about the colonial past or the push factors involved in migration, ( which was nothing to do with the original point ) and tries to discredit/ ignore the original criticism.

Whatever this country is or appears to be by some it's far richer than the countries which people flee from to come here ! It must be manna from Heaven to them.

crystaltipps if you did not think that the original contentious post deserved criticism then does that mean you somehow agreed with it?

Going back to the OP, I don’t understand what makes this tanker British myself. Perhaps someone could enlighten me.

I understand it may have been registered in Britain. Is that enough to make it British?

Yes it is maddyone as many Stena tankers are registered elsewhere in the world. The crew aren't British.

This is probably a really silly question but why isn’t the Swedish owned Stena tanker registered in Sweden and they could then use their navy to protect it? How much money does it bring in to the UK when a ship is registered here and does that cover the cost of defending it?

Thank you Ellan.
Suzie, interesting questions, but I don’t know the answers. Maybe someone else does.

The more I think about this the more puzzled I get. My guess is that it suits the Swedish owners financially to register here ( cheaper/ lower standards of employment / health and safety?) But does anyone else think it’s a damn cheek that registration includes the protection of the Royal Navy, putting our sailors at risk and our country into a potential war situation?

Luckygirl Sun 21-Jul-19 21:33:28

"Sunday paper analysis is that this was set up by US and they are rubbing their hands together with glee that we are getting dragged in. Still - not to worry - we will have BJ at the helm. hmm"
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Do you believe the United States ' told ' Iran to set the ' Grace 1 ' on course to sail around Europe carrying a cargo of oil to be impounded at Gibraltar on the grounds of suspicion of breaking the EU sanctions against Assad?

Do you think the Americans also ' told ' the Iranian Guard to target a ' British flagged' tanker so the USA could ' rub it' s hands in glee '?

Presumably your post is agreeing with the newspaper you refer to which believes this is all a US conspiracy.

We have our Navy to protect shipping as they're always strategically placed around the world.

I think it's disastrous that our armed forces have been depleted. Another fine mess orchestrated by airheads in Government. Why do they think they know it all ??

I read that most of the oil which travels through the Straits of Hormuz is bound for the Far East.

Any further disruption to shipping there by Iran could cause world-wide problems.

With Theresa holding a meeting with COBRA today, I hope she writes it all down to give to Boris.

I still believe that no one on this earth knows what this British/whatever country flagged, is all about.

I wouldn't mind betting that the main reason for registering a ship in the UK is because the Royal Navy will be called upon to protect them if and when they run into trouble.

This is apparently being discussed in COBRA today (according to the Jeremy Vine show)

Worrying times for family merlot with DSiL's deployment to the Far East beginning in a fortnight. Highly likely they won't get that far.

You are probably right merlot. So if something goes wrong and British sailors are killed, their widows will be proud of the sacrifice their husbands made protecting a ship owned by an obscenely wealthy Swedish family and crewed by non British sailors. It’s damn disgraceful.

Gone British flagged simply means the ship is registered in Britain

The family are worth $3.9 billion dollars - I’m pleased my taxes are helping to protect their fortune

I think you could be right merlotgran, it had occurred to me too that registering in Britain means the Royal Navy will be called upon to protect the ship in the event of the ship running into trouble.

I don’t think this situation has been engineered by the USA but I do think DT hasn’t been either diplomatic or helpful by ripping up Obama’s agreement with Iran.

Ellan I agree totally with you, it is disastrous that our armed forces have been so depleted, by both of the major parties over a long time.

Gonegirl

There are various reasons for registering maritime vessels under another countries ' flag'.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_state

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_convenience