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Irish passport?

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mosaicwarts Sun 08-Sept-19 23:10:23

Hello everyone, I met a friend tonight who said she was applying for an Irish passport, in addition to her UK passport. Has anyone else with Irish ancestors done this yet?

lemongrove Mon 09-Sept-19 16:38:02

We all had holidays abroad before we ever entered the EU!

lemongrove Mon 09-Sept-19 16:36:16

Sensible posts by notanan2 ......just that some posters can’t see it.They are doing it for protests only, or, to be more precise are saying that they will do it.
I’m Irish by descent but won’t be applying for one, I have a British passport to use for any holiday anywhere.

crystaltipps Mon 09-Sept-19 16:33:55

Also will be able to have health care etc in EU.

M0nica Mon 09-Sept-19 16:32:31

Using it for the sake of using it isnt the same as needing it. Thats not what I said.

Anyone with an Irish passport can travel to and around EU countries as an EU citizen, with a UK passport they will be seen as an enemy foreign alien, and subject to the rules and limits that govern that. So any UK citizen who qualifies to do so should get an Irish passport for practical reasons.

notanan2 Mon 09-Sept-19 16:16:31

I would think any UK citizen getting an irish passport is likely to be travelling to an EU country some time or another, so will have a use for it.

Using it for the sake of using it isnt the same as needing it.

You wont need one for holidaying post brexit. Many Irish passport "brexit applicants" have no intention to work or live abroad!

notanan2 Mon 09-Sept-19 16:14:51

It doesnt cost that to get a passport by decent. That is the naturalisation cost, entirely different.

crystaltipps Mon 09-Sept-19 16:06:45

I don’t think anyone wants to shell out over £1.5k “just because they can”. It is obviously important to them. Thousands of People of Irish descent feel the same.

Grannycool52 Mon 09-Sept-19 15:54:59

I have read in the serious newspapers that Mark Carney, Governor of the Bank of England, travels on an Irish passport.

M0nica Mon 09-Sept-19 15:23:02

I would think any UK citizen getting an irish passport is likely to be travelling to an EU country some time or another, so will have a use for it.

crystaltipps Mon 09-Sept-19 15:23:00

It’s not “just because we can” we’re entitled to it and we will use it.

notanan2 Mon 09-Sept-19 15:17:44

So you need to use it
That is different to the "lets get one just cause we can" lot!

M0nica Mon 09-Sept-19 15:06:18

I am not 'protesting' by getting an Irish passport. I am taking practical measures to make it possible for me and, hopefully, my DH to travel between our two homes, on in France the other in the UK with the ease we always have.

Missfoodlove Mon 09-Sept-19 14:44:32

Notanan2,

I answered the OP regarding applying for an Irish passport.

You have hijacked an innocuous thread.

I never doubted that I was an Irish citizen.

My children need to register on the foreign birth register before they can become Irish citizens.

Nobody is arguing with you, relax.

MawB Mon 09-Sept-19 14:00:26

“Carer” dummes Tablet!

MawB Mon 09-Sept-19 13:59:50

Hattie, bred in Tipperary has an EU Irish “pet passport”
I wonder if I am entitled to one as her sole career? ???

notanan2 Mon 09-Sept-19 13:31:51

".... always have BEEN...."

notanan2 Mon 09-Sept-19 13:31:22

My Irish passport says 'Irish Citizen' therefore I have been told I now hold dual citizenship.

You always have done. You were Irish "by birth"

But absolutely sensible in your case to get a passport to show it!.

Maggie1055 Mon 09-Sept-19 13:28:52

I am British, living in Spain. I applied and have been granted an Irish Passport based on my parents nationality, both were born in Ireland. My Irish passport says 'Irish Citizen' therefore I have been told I now hold dual citizenship. My husband is British but our Spanish legal rep, has told us he can continue to reside in Spain based on my status as Irish Citizen. The application process was straightforward, I just needed my father's birth certificate and my parents' marriage certificate. I have also renewed my UK passport and declared my Irish passport on the form. Received my new UK passport last week. .

notanan2 Mon 09-Sept-19 13:13:27

If you really genuinely felt such strong solidarity with Ireland and abhoration at Britain, if that was truely your driving motivation (Vs "nice to have"/"to make a point") you wouldnt just get your Irish passport, you would also denounce your British citizenship..

Then you would really be "in solidarity"

But how many of these "protest passport" holders would do that?

notanan2 Mon 09-Sept-19 13:07:54

It’s making a political gesture and sort of putting a metaphorical two fingers up at the way the U.K. government has handled the whole Brexit debacle

It does not do that!

You are no less bound by Bexit and all the decisions and changes involved as a British person living in Britain who just happens to be a dual citizen

Its not giving anyone in British government any fingers! They dont care that the wait for Irish Forign Birth registration has quadrupled!

I’m sure the Irish need all the supporters they can get. the Irish in Britain need to not have a year long wait for documents that they can no longer open a bank account, rent a flat or change jobs without!

If you have a British passport you are not in that position.

There are dozens of ways to show solidarity but this is not one of them! Read some Irish press / media about how many Irish people feel about these "protest passports"

crystaltipps Mon 09-Sept-19 12:58:17

I know you can’t change your passport mid trip, that’s not the point, nor is it the point to get in the shortest queue at the airport. It’s making a political gesture and sort of putting a metaphorical two fingers up at the way the U.K. government has handled the whole Brexit debacle and it’s taking away of citizens rights. Plus the dismissive way it treats the ROI. I’m sorry if some people are inconvenienced, hopefully in an emergency they will be catered for, and no one will mind that. But stop telling us not to do something because of some logistical difficulties. I’m sure the Irish need all the supporters they can get.

notanan2 Mon 09-Sept-19 12:50:24

Its like when there's a fuel shortage and there's Sunday drivers in the queue filling their tanks while keyworkers are wondering how to get to work!

Yes they are entitled to, its just not a nice thing to do!

notanan2 Mon 09-Sept-19 12:48:23

I’m sure those who need a passport in an emergency will be catered for, and those who are applying through the foreign births register will not get any such priority

crystal there are people applying via foreign births register who have no other citizenship

These are the people being worst affected.

We don’t make the rules.
Sure. But just because you can doesnt mean you should

notanan2 Mon 09-Sept-19 12:45:53

Say you travelled somewhere on your British passport and then they went to war with Britain.. you cant then whip out your Irish passport and say "but I'm Irish today"! They will count you as British as that is the passport you crossed the border on.

crystaltipps Mon 09-Sept-19 12:42:31

Don’t blame those who want an Irish passport for the lengthy waiting times. I’m sure those who need a passport in an emergency will be catered for, and those who are applying through the foreign births register will not get any such priority. I believe the Irish passport office have taken on lots of extra staff to cope with the demand, good luck to all those with Irish ancestors. We don’t make the rules.