So, GN members, what do you think of this!

Please stop all this spying on neighbours. Theres nothing you can do about it.

My daughter lives alone with two small children under age of 2 she is struggling and tired BUT as a mother and grandmother if I visited them and helped her and unknowingly past the virus to her and she died leaving the boys with no mother WHY do these people who visit there families think that this could never happen to them !

SirChenj how very sensible you are but people still don't get it! My niece is just the same life for her has carried on in the same way it always has. She goes to the coast each weekend (because it's her right!) It makes me so cross but a huge family bust-up is not something I can deal with just now.

18:18SirChenjin

And there is something you can do - you can speak to them or call the police.

What sort of snitch are you??? I can imagine you standing behind your net curtains all day, desperate to catch out one of your neighbours. Get a life!!

I agree teacheranne I m in a similar situation to you but I do go for my daily walk but it does seem a halfway house in U.K. with lots of people ‘sort of’ hibernating except ‘just to ....’ and it’s obviously not working but I also don’t think some other countries are as strict as we are led to believe I have one daughter in Ireland and she was berating our gov for not being strict enough, but then she tells me my grandkids meet their friends but stay a few feet apart (yeah sure) and she goes to exercise with friends but stays a distance I have a friend in Holland they still have some restaurants etc open and seem much more relaxed about the lockdown my son in NZ they go on three hour runs or family cycle rides (keeping their distance) My poor teen grandkids here have hardly left the house for six weeks and haven’t seen any friends only online
I fear for their mental health their mums a key worker and I can’t go to their house so they are just in hibernation

Working in a care home and carrying on family life as if all were well is really not on.
A care home not far from us lost 15 residents, they did not catch the virus by socialising outside the home.

I'm beginning to question why I am observing the lockdown so rigidly - when clearly quite a number of people are not. Surely after 25 days of lockdown ( since March 23rd) there should be far fewer ( or even none) new cases of Covid 19 as I thought the incubation period is around three weeks? So people who are now becoming ill have come into contact with someone carrying the virus during lockdown period. Or am I missing something? Not every new case of Covid 19 appears to be someone who is a key worker.

I am not in an especially vulnerable group and I live alone so total isolation has been tough. I have been to the shops twice since the 23rd March and have not left my house at all, not even for exercise, although I do have a garden to get fresh air. I don't "socialise" in my front garden with neighbours or passers by, I don't go out for a drive, I don't go out for exercise and chat to all and sundry in parks, I havnt seen friends or family and I'm fed up! I can't visit my 87 yr old mother who is stuck in hospital which is really upsetting as I used to look after her most days.

I appreciate that I am lucky enough to be able to isolate like this but I was under the impression that everybody was doing the same! I don't share my house with someone who has to go out to work so I can reduce my risk.

In this country we appear to be doing something wrong, either impose tighter lockdown like they did in Italy or relax the measures as in Sweden - but don't have this half measured approach that some people just ignore. Our death rate is so high even after the lockdown measures.

Right, rant over!

phoenix and Callistemon
Absolutely correct, life will indeed be shorter for some people if others can’t follow the rules.

The situation in Sweden is going the same way as other countries - it’s not as rosy as some people believe and of course the Swedish demographic is vastly different from Italy or Spain www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/15/sweden-coronavirus-death-toll-reaches-1000

There are two ways at looking at this Sweden which has no lockdown has some people self isolating themselves in Italy that had strict lockdown people were creeping out to shop most days just to get out the house
I m not sure which ways are right or wrong We have no way of knowing if we have immunity or not until they get this blasted test sorted out We may be going mad staying in washing everything and already have immunity or we may have had the virus without even realising it and could be out there being useful We may be punishing ourselves unnecessarily or we may not be being careful enough no one seems to know

They could spread it to the other children who may be asymptomatic, spread it to the new baby and other members of the family, then onwards to others, as SirChenjin's post shows.

Thank you Callistemon, appreciate that you understood my response to allium

I don't think she will be having any contact with the newborn, but her son & girlfriend should not have gone to "help" look after the other children just because they wanted to see them!

Life may be very short for some if this woman carries the virus into her newborn grandchild and the residents in the care home where she works, allium.

We all have a sense of responsibility towards others, especially now.

allium I'm at your "life's too short to worry about other people" post!

Life for some may be very short indeed if we didn't "worry" about other people, i.e. consider our actions and how they might impact on "other people"

So, how would you feel if no one considered anyone else, and just carried on regardless, especially with regard to Covid19?

I think you may be up for an award, the most gob smacking post of the week!

I do share your frustration and only hope those who selfishly ignore the guidelines have a wake up call and realise just how dangerous the outcome will be if not for them, for others, due to their careless behaviour. ?

Let’s hope these people don’t shorten too many other lives with their behaviour.

Lifes too short to worry about other people.

Thank you It’s something I and many others live with and I do know how awful it is - but I get quite frustrated when I see people saying that they ‘need’ to see their friends and family for the sake of their mental health. Watching someone you love suffering from respiratory distress or worse as a result of Coronavirus will affect your mental health far more, I can assure you.

My point exactly. I had no idea you battled with depression as do many on GN I am though sincerely sorry to hear you suffer too.

I suffer from depression - I’m also well aware that my mental health (and those of others) will be far, far worse if I don’t adhere to the very clear guidelines. It’s not at all flippant.

This is an excellent infographic (sorry, couldn’t find the URL for it) that shows clearly the importance of social distancing - and that means all of us, not some of us.

Something else we are very much aware of so no need to step it up a notch.

I have not personally said there is no excuse, of course it’s wrong, however, whether to ignore or report is a decision I am capable of making without obeying orders from those who feel the need to tell me what to,do.
I am a former nurse, three family members are medics working in the front line in a city hospital and I will deal with the idiots not following guidelines and putting my family at high risk accordingly.

The ‘depression’ claim was very flippant. A very real problem for those who suffer with this condition.

Well the virus is getting spread around, it must be, we’re had over fourteen thousand deaths, and that’s just the ones we’ve counted. Somehow Coronavirus is being spread around and people who don’t follow the guidelines must be causing some of it. All it takes is one key worker in a household and that household to not follow the rules. And there you have it. Everyone has to follow the rules.

These people who brazenly flout the lockdown rules should be made to pay a hefty fine or if they're not working be made to pick the fruit/veg and help our farmers out. Why this government has not enforced a stricter lockdown beggars belief.

What makes you doubt that mixing households and a lack of social distancing isn’t causing thousands of deaths Baggs? How do you think it’s spreading across the world?

As for the ‘depression’ claim - your mental health will be a heck of a lot worse if you contract covid as a result of people behaving this way, believe me. There’s no excuse - although I realise people look for one.

Thank you all.

You have reinforced my own thoughts.

Sadly, not much I can do about it