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phoenix Fri 17-Apr-20 17:46:46

My lovely neighbour (couldn't ask for better, even though her taste in garden ornaments is questionable confused) works in a local care home, and tends to be assigned to the ones with dementia, as she is very good with them.

Her daughter has just gone into labour (a week overdue, poor love) so neighbour has gone to look after the 2 children so that SIL can take wife to hospital and be with her for the birth.

BUT, as I was telling her to give them my love (from my doorstep) her son and his girlfriend who lived with her were also getting in the car!shock

I did ask why, was told "Oh they want to come to see G & N" (the children)

Right, wrong or what?

SirChenjin Fri 17-Apr-20 17:54:43

Wrong - so, so wrong. Why are people not getting this? It’s not as if they’re being told to develop their own vaccine out of household ingredients - all they have to do is stay indoors, have a daily walk in the immediate neighbourhood, don’t mix households, wash hands, go as infrequently as possible to the shops for essentials.

Those of us who have managed to grasp this incredibly simple information will be the ones who help to bring down the rate of infection and stop the NHS from becoming overwhelmed. Perhaps herd immunity refers to creating immunity within society to allow for stupid?

Calendargirl Fri 17-Apr-20 17:58:27

Wrong, obviously, but people seem to have differing views when it comes to their family, a ‘oh, we’re ok, it’s family’ attitude.

EllanVannin Fri 17-Apr-20 18:10:03

What others do isn't worth worrying/bothering about. There's now't you can do about it so just ignore and pretend you haven't seen or heard anything.

SirChenjin Fri 17-Apr-20 18:18:12

Why shouldn’t others be concerned/angry/frustrated by others who refuse to help stop this virus spreading? They are endangering the lives of others - thousands are dying because of the behaviour of people like this.

maddyone Fri 17-Apr-20 18:18:18

Well said SirChenjin

SirChenjin Fri 17-Apr-20 18:18:57

And there is something you can do - you can speak to them or call the police.

Kalu Fri 17-Apr-20 18:42:32

We are all aware there is something we can do but as no one knows what personal troubles some of us are dealing with ie; depression, please be aware any haranguing to do the right thing could well exacerbate the troubles some posters are having to deal with during this very difficult period.

Lucca Fri 17-Apr-20 18:53:56

You know I think a lot of people are quietly ignoring the supposed lockdown (and compared to other countries this is NOT lockdown). So many cars around today, they cant all be key workers,
I think honestly the guidelines have been muddled you need to be clearer è.g. Same household some people clearly e take to mean same family.

Franbern Fri 17-Apr-20 18:55:31

Kalu, what a good, sensible and sympathetic post. So many posters seem to feel that we should all become like the people were in Nazi Germany, taking a sheer delight in spying on and reporting their neighbours.

Urmstongran Fri 17-Apr-20 18:57:11

Let sleeping dogs lie.
This is your neighbour after all & you don’t want frostiness when all this is over.
Yes, it’s wrong. Very much so. But there will always be idiots. You can’t fix stupid.

Baggs Fri 17-Apr-20 18:57:12

I very much doubt that "thousands are dying because of the behaviour of people like this". Possibly their behaviour makes some difference, but not enough for the rest of us to turn into snitchers and squealers. I think there's enough good "herd" behaviour for us to sigh and move on when we see stuff like this.

That said, I find it surprising someone who works in a care home doesn't understand.

phoenix Fri 17-Apr-20 18:57:15

Thank you all.

You have reinforced my own thoughts.

Sadly, not much I can do about it sad

SirChenjin Fri 17-Apr-20 19:05:07

What makes you doubt that mixing households and a lack of social distancing isn’t causing thousands of deaths Baggs? How do you think it’s spreading across the world?

As for the ‘depression’ claim - your mental health will be a heck of a lot worse if you contract covid as a result of people behaving this way, believe me. There’s no excuse - although I realise people look for one.

grannyrebel7 Fri 17-Apr-20 19:15:18

These people who brazenly flout the lockdown rules should be made to pay a hefty fine or if they're not working be made to pick the fruit/veg and help our farmers out. Why this government has not enforced a stricter lockdown beggars belief.

maddyone Fri 17-Apr-20 19:18:16

Well the virus is getting spread around, it must be, we’re had over fourteen thousand deaths, and that’s just the ones we’ve counted. Somehow Coronavirus is being spread around and people who don’t follow the guidelines must be causing some of it. All it takes is one key worker in a household and that household to not follow the rules. And there you have it. Everyone has to follow the rules.

Kalu Fri 17-Apr-20 19:28:16

Something else we are very much aware of so no need to step it up a notch.

I have not personally said there is no excuse, of course it’s wrong, however, whether to ignore or report is a decision I am capable of making without obeying orders from those who feel the need to tell me what to,do.
I am a former nurse, three family members are medics working in the front line in a city hospital and I will deal with the idiots not following guidelines and putting my family at high risk accordingly.

The ‘depression’ claim was very flippant. A very real problem for those who suffer with this condition.

SirChenjin Fri 17-Apr-20 19:36:18

I suffer from depression - I’m also well aware that my mental health (and those of others) will be far, far worse if I don’t adhere to the very clear guidelines. It’s not at all flippant.

This is an excellent infographic (sorry, couldn’t find the URL for it) that shows clearly the importance of social distancing - and that means all of us, not some of us.

Kalu Fri 17-Apr-20 19:58:59

My point exactly. I had no idea you battled with depression as do many on GN I am though sincerely sorry to hear you suffer too.

SirChenjin Fri 17-Apr-20 20:08:46

Thank you smile It’s something I and many others live with and I do know how awful it is - but I get quite frustrated when I see people saying that they ‘need’ to see their friends and family for the sake of their mental health. Watching someone you love suffering from respiratory distress or worse as a result of Coronavirus will affect your mental health far more, I can assure you.

allium Fri 17-Apr-20 20:12:44

Lifes too short to worry about other people.

SirChenjin Fri 17-Apr-20 20:20:51

Let’s hope these people don’t shorten too many other lives with their behaviour.

Kalu Fri 17-Apr-20 20:39:05

I do share your frustration and only hope those who selfishly ignore the guidelines have a wake up call and realise just how dangerous the outcome will be if not for them, for others, due to their careless behaviour. 🤞

phoenix Fri 17-Apr-20 20:56:58

allium I'mshock at your "life's too short to worry about other people" post!

Life for some may be very short indeed if we didn't "worry" about other people, i.e. consider our actions and how they might impact on "other people"

So, how would you feel if no one considered anyone else, and just carried on regardless, especially with regard to Covid19?

I think you may be up for an award, the most gob smacking post of the week!

Callistemon Fri 17-Apr-20 21:45:29

Life may be very short for some if this woman carries the virus into her newborn grandchild and the residents in the care home where she works, allium.

We all have a sense of responsibility towards others, especially now.