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Gigi1975 Wed 04-Nov-20 10:41:59

Over a number of years my MIL has always been welcomed into our home. I very much see her as part of our family and as she’s on her own without a husband or partner we always spend lots of time with her including big occasions: Christmas, birthdays etc. However, lately I’m finding she’s getting too involved in our family life, putting forward her views in lots of different areas, telling me ways to do things and I’m finding it very frustrating. I’ve decided I need to be better at putting some boundaries in place but this is something I struggle to do in general and I think this will be especially hard with her. She’s a very strong character, I’m a lot more relaxed normally but I feel my relaxed approach has led to her taking over in a way I’m not comfortable with anymore. My question really is, have you ever been in this situation as a MIL? Is a direct approach best? How do I establish some new boundaries without permanently offending her? I want to be sensitive to her needs but I’m also aware I’ve been doing that a lot and that has meant I’m often neglecting my own needs and this is leading me to feel very unhappy.

JdotJ Fri 06-Nov-20 10:51:26

I would play her at her own game. Tell her you dont like her hair/clothes/things she should cook. When/if she looks affronted I would laugh and say "see, not so nice to hear those things is it"!

Aepgirl Fri 06-Nov-20 10:51:02

I suspect she is feeling anxious about being on her own again during lockdown. I know when we first came out of the first lockdown I found I couldn’t stop talking - eventually my daughter said, very gently, mum, take a breath.

I really don’t know how you can solve this problem, except by getting your husband involved. However, your MIL may think that you’ve told him to speak to her. Good luck.

EmilyHarburn Fri 06-Nov-20 10:43:30

Set you boundaries as clearly your MIL has started to invade your home life privacy and will not stop until made to. Not Spaghetti has made some useful points.

It is important for your long term mental health that you do this sooner rather than later.

Can you engage your husband in helping you to limit her interference?

Lucca Fri 06-Nov-20 10:33:57

Horatia

Is a MIL really just a guest (often unwanted).

Oh I do hope not these days. Possibly when we were younger yes but I certainly don’t think of myself as a “guest “

ctussaud Fri 06-Nov-20 10:33:54

Does much of this happen via the telephone? If so, get one with Caller Display and let her calls/most of her calls go to answerphone, or else let your DH take them.

lizzypopbottle Fri 06-Nov-20 10:29:41

Here's an idea: get a large notebook and pen and ask her to write her suggestions down at the time she makes them. Tell her you keep forgetting what she's suggested. If it's food ideas, ask her to write a recipe. That'll keep her quiet for a while and convince her you're taking her seriously! She might get fed up quite quickly! ? Keep the notebook in a drawer. You don't have to read it but you could draw a simple smiley face on her efforts, after she's gone home, so she sees positive feedback next time. ? Get the notebook out before she arrives at your house so she sees her task is ready! (Can you tell I was a school teacher in a former life?)

I try very hard not to tell my daughter how to run her home and bring up her children. Things have changed since I was a young mother. If she tells me she has a problem, the nearest I get is to ask, "Have you tried....?" rather than, "You should.... "

Horatia Fri 06-Nov-20 10:28:54

Is a MIL really just a guest (often unwanted).

Mohum Fri 06-Nov-20 10:15:37

My D is more sensitive to MIL opinions than mine. I think this is always the case. I can get away with more comments without causing offence.

JTelles7 Fri 06-Nov-20 10:11:58

Tell her in your house you decide as she does in her house. Then thank her for her advice and add “ we shall say no more on this matter” Then move on quickly

wildswan16 Fri 06-Nov-20 10:11:47

Good suggestions from everyone. Also - try to find something "special" that only she can do for your daughter. Depending on her age of course - teach her to knit, start reading a set of books just for granny time, baking with her etc.

razzmatazz Fri 06-Nov-20 10:08:09

Have a phrase in mind when she comes out with suggestions, hair , clothes...... and just keep saying it. Broken record. Gentle phrases like “Mmm , not sure I agree with that” . Or think of one of your own . She’ll get fed up if you keep repeating that. It’s called the broken record response”.

Coconut Fri 06-Nov-20 09:58:40

It’s difficult I know, my own mother still thinks she she can tell me how to run my life and I’m 68 ! I used to just ignore the barrage of opinions, but realised that gave her license to continue. So I now have a catalogue of non aggressive, but assertive responses “that’s my decision” being my firm favourite ?. Does your DH know how all this is making you feel ? He should be gently telling his mum that you do things your way, and not passing on her opinions. Dealing with every issue as/when it arose, certainly stopped my mum in her tracks, she actually thinks very carefully now before commenting. They do mean well but unfortunately they do not know when being helpful ends and interfering begins.

jaylucy Fri 06-Nov-20 09:50:12

Certainly I'd go with "Do you think so ?" and then just ignore what she says!
There is absolutely no reason why you have to act on anyones advice, whoever they are and who knows, if she sees that, she may just keep her thoughts to herself in future!
I will say though that you need to get OH onside or she could end up playing one of you off against the other !

Thistlelass Thu 05-Nov-20 21:55:09

It depends. It just depends. Bibitty - a little too blunt sometimes eh? It makes me smile because this can be me. Now I have one DIL and her mum died when she was 5 years old, I have known this young woman from when she was 16 and she is now 30. We have had a good few differences of opinion. None of which I am going to air on here. There are times when I have been fuming with her and no doubt vice versa. She is good hearted and she believes it is important she and I get on for her husband and my son's case. I have a lot of respect for her. It has not been easy at times. And it is likely you will be a MIL yourself one day? It is not the easiest task to be the mother of a married son, and especially with no husband to help you steer a healthy/helpful course. So I would say to you, maybe go out with her socially once or twice. Build on your friendship for friendships sake. Then you will have a better basis on which to discuss your concerns, I hope she has back up to support her with any changes.

welbeck Thu 05-Nov-20 00:27:39

maybe if the moment is right you could open up a conversation about how things were when she was bringing up yr OH. then glide to did he see much of his GPs. did she ever say that he needed a haircut ? how would did you feel. because it makes me feel that you don't think i am paying enough attention to my daughter's needs. which i don't think is the case.
keep it calm and matter of fact. good luck.

FarNorth Wed 04-Nov-20 22:20:05

Also, maybe MiL has no idea that your DH is passing these messages on to you.
Maybe she thinks it's just a casual remark about whatever it is, and she expects him to forget it if he doesn't agree.

Callistemon Wed 04-Nov-20 22:14:37

Saying "Oh yes" or "How lovely" or " Yes, I'll try that" might be the best way forward with a smile.

I am itching to mention something at the moment but am ?.
Their children, their way of parenting.

Gigi1975 Wed 04-Nov-20 21:25:58

Sorry was trying to reply to responses individually but I don’t know how to do that

Gigi1975 Wed 04-Nov-20 21:24:30

Great advice thanks

Madgran77 Wed 04-Nov-20 21:18:59

Ok. Telling me my daughter needs a haircut, that she needs certain clothes. Suggesting foods I could make for her. It’s been making me feel like my parenting isn’t good enough

1. Haircut ..."We like it as it is at the moment." No justification of your viewpoint, just a statement said with a friendly smile. If she carries on re she doesn't agree and she needs a cut now or asks why on earth you like it as it is ...you can continue to reply "We like it as it is" etc etc

2. Needs clothes: ..."We like her wearing ...!" Same as above, just a clear statement of your views, no justification. Again if she continues to say about needing a clothes item, "She's fine with her clothes at the moment. We like her wearing ...!" etc etc

If you are going to speak to her directly about the problem I think you and your partner should do that together ...unless you are happy for him to speak for you, which in my opinion just causes further problems.

3. Foods ..."Oh thanks for the suggestion. I'll think about that" .....etc etc

4, Your partner coming to you about things you feel his mother has expressed to him..."We agreed she doesn't need...! Have you changed your mind?" or "Did your Mum suggest that? What is your view?"

FarNorth Wed 04-Nov-20 19:31:09

tell your dh you don't want to hear any more 'suggestions' from her via him

Start with DH. He needs to do the pleasant smile etc, as suggested above, not bring MiL's suggestions to you unless it's something he genuinely agrees with.

Maybe MiL has too little to think about, in the current situation, and hasn't realised she's focusing on your family more than she should.

Bibbity Wed 04-Nov-20 18:33:25

I’m fortunately not English. But I am British.
I just don’t see the point on tiptoeing around those who persistently dig and be rude at others. Why should their behaviour be allowed to pass. Better they be corrected in home rather than in public by others.

silverlining48 Wed 04-Nov-20 18:13:53

My mil changed as she got older and became really critical. Of me mostly. I had always welcomed her, inviting her to stay, which meant a 200 mile round trip fir us to pick her up, turning my dining room into a bedroom for her, and back again for meals. It was a pallaver but I wanted her to feel welcome.
There was a bit of a fallout over something of her making and I stopped seeing her, and it was only then I found out she used to criticise me to my then teenage daughters while i was in the kitchen making christmas dinner for us all. I was livid.

welbeck Wed 04-Nov-20 17:54:37

sorry, not quick enough. my comment was to Bibbity.

welbeck Wed 04-Nov-20 17:53:43

i think that sounds unduly antagonistic.
are you from another country.
in england that would sound rude and as if you expect a fight.