Advice please re a Covid problem

Grossmama

If they both wear FFP2 masks and leave the windows open in the car your husband will be not be infected.

What!!!!

If they both wear FFP2 masks and leave the windows open in the car your husband will be not be infected.

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I’m quite annoyed reading this. It’s so selfish and downright stupid to be sharing a car with her, taking her to her mother’s and then staying in a hotel. I’m stunned to be honest and the only advice I can give is that the daughter stays home on her own. Not very nice for her but it’s the rules!

This virus KILLS people, which part of over 150,000 people DEAD do they not understand. Totally not your fault OP but for your sake and the sake of those patients and any else he may come into contact with please do not let him back into your home until his daughter is out of isolation and he has taken a PCR which shows negative.

I think the loop hole is only there to stop the NHS from being without most of it’s staff and isn’t exactly an ideal situation!

Does her mother want her with Covid? I work for the NHS and would be livid if a family member put me at such risk of getting it and then passing it round the hospital - disgraceful, sorry to be so blunt

I agree that OH is being irresponsible by going to pick up DD, and that she should be self-isolating alone.

However, I have been mooching around nhs.uk and there appears to be a loophole here:

When you do not need to self-isolate

If you live with or have been in contact with someone with COVID-19, you will not need to self-isolate if any of the following apply:

• you're fully vaccinated – this means 14 days have passed since your final dose of an approved COVID-19 vaccine.

So OH could say that he has ‘been in contact with’ a positive case (in the car) but does not need to isolate from OP and her family because he has been ‘fully vaccinated’. Am I reading this wrong, or have the lunatics finally taken over the asylum?

Sorry but she should be isolating. Anyone in contact with her is liable to catch it too. If your husband insists on spending 3 hours in an enclosed space with an infected person then he will need to isolate too. It really is a no brainer

She took the test she’s now committed to the rules.
It’s my understanding that if you test positive then isolation is mandatory.

Why is it considered sad to be alone on Christmas Day?

I think it's sad if you're alone and away from family if you'd normally spend Christmas with them.
It's also sad and worrying to be alone and feeling very ill.

How old is this girl? Why isn’t she isolating ?

Why is it considered sad to be alone on Christmas Day? This is often said by people who have no religious sentiments at all. Surely, for non religious adults, Christmas is just a time of eating and drinking together? Is it really worth such a huge risk? For one day? Couldn’t it be done when everyone was virus free?
Consider this one example, which could result in dozens of linked infections and multiply it out round the country. We can definitely look forward to Covid Christmas 2022 Lockdown.
All the softly softly , pussyfooting around approaches mean everyone does their own thing.
It was only lockdowns, hefty fines and possible jail time that made the whiny, moany, selfish, pathetically immature folk do the right thing.
I’ve heard grown men whining pathetically about wearing a mask.
The government thinks the whole population have active brains, however we’ve all seen that isn’t true?

How old is DH's daughter? If she's an adult then surely she understands the risk she is posing to her father, mother and everybody else she comes into contact with. Very sad to be left on own over Christmas but surely she'd feel much worse if she became responsible for other peoples ill health.

Wow Kate22 I feel for you here.
You don't mention whether he's been vaccinated. If he has then there's no need for him to self isolate after contact with his daughter.
I think he's being selfish by staying in an hotel.
Bottom line, his daughter should stay on her own. Maybe the time alone would make her grow up a little and not rely on daddy.

Do test and trace still check that you are at home. My friend caught Covid and was checked twice to see that she was isolating. My 23yr old granddaughter has just caught Covid for the second time despite being double jabbed and is willingly self isolating instead of joining us as she knows we are both vulnerable. Fortunately she is free on Xmas Eve so will drive down on Xmas Day. I would have thought the daughter would have more sense. Surely she knows she will be putting her parents at risk.

There's not much more you can do, sazz1, so well done.
It's not what we expected for another Christmas, is it.
I hope you can all get together soon.

Calistemon
We're travelling up tomorrow to deliver presents outside the houses. Not going in to DS1 either as DIL was helping DD
Will stay o/n at DS2s flat and travelling back home Xmas afternoon. At least the DGC will all get their present and we can see them through the windows.
Awful Xmas really but can't be helped. At least DD is improving slowly. I ring her 3 x a day atm.

Thousands of people will be spending Christmas alone, myself included, whether they like it or not. Better be safe than sorry.

sazz1

I hope they'll both feel better soon, it is very worrying for you knowing they're alone.

Just a thought, does your husband intend telling the hotel he is going to stay in that he has just spent 3 hours plus with someone who should be in isolation. Stupid, selfish man.

OP my DD has covid Delta and she's double vaxxed. This is day seven.
Today she's sleepy and can't really think straight I think they call it Brainfog.
Over the past 7 days she's had severe headache, light sensitivity, neck and joint stiffness, severe cough, fainting spells, severe vertigo needing medication, high temperature 103 after paracetamol. At the moment it's just breathlessness after walking upstairs, severe cough and tiredness. Dull headache too.
DGC is now positive too with temperature.
Now my DD is in her 20s fit healthy no medical issues at all.
I really hope you stop your OH from doing this as u will then be both at high risk.
It's also illegal
If he does transport her move out for at least 10 days. It's horrific for some people

Your husband shouldn’t take her anywhere. She is in isolation and shouldn’t be travelling anywhere at all. Hard though it is, she has to have Christmas in isolation rather than spread it to everyone else.

So if your husband goes ahead with this irresponsible plan, drops his daughter off at her mother's then goes to stay at a hotel, will he remain there for the duration on his own, including having his meals there, or will he assume he can join all of you for his meals?
If he does stay in the hotel on his own I can't see how that would be an improvement on his daughter, correctly, staying put in her own home?

I think you need to inform your four NHS worker children exactly what is being proposed so they can lodge their objections, and if necessary have time to buy what food they'll need to stay at home. Maybe you could go to one of them instead?

Your husband will be putting himself at risk and also by taking his Daughter to her Mothers putting her at risk ....How would they both feel for example if the Mother gets it and dies?Thousands of people have died ..its not just a little cold for some