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BBbevan Mon 28-Feb-22 09:05:06

I had a very good friend when I was at college in the 60s. She didn’t finish the course but went off and married a quite wealthy man. For a while we lost touch, but I suppose since the 80s we have sent Christmas cards etc and have met up about 4or 5 times. So not really close. Recently she was holidaying near us and I met her for a coffee. She is showing her age a little now as she used to frequent beauty parlours. She had a new phone with her, on the table beside her and show off as she always was she had to demonstrate it to me. She pointed out all the many apps she has. In the middle of the screen was a large bright blue cross. I asked what it was. She pressed it and it led to a porn site where an ,allegedly, mother and son were having sex. I didn’t know quite what to say. She said her DH wasn’t up to much now so she watches this. I really don’t know what to think. What do other’s think. On reflection I think I feel a little sad for her.

M0nica Mon 28-Feb-22 12:00:33

How common are these brain disorders and what other symptoms do they have?

The majority of the people watching sites like tha mentioned will just be ordinary peole with perverted sexual tastes.

Namsnanny Mon 28-Feb-22 12:06:33

My problem with any porn is its effect on the performer, and its effect on the viewer.
Your friend is very unusual Bbeven. What ever her reasons for showing it to you (dementia or exhibitionism) it is a blessing you dont see much of her.
Your DH is probably right, the performers are just role playing.

Dickens Mon 28-Feb-22 12:15:20

Granny23

I wonder what your reaction would have been if she had 'confessed' to using Sex Toys instead of porn? Is your objection to the use of porn, or, simply to a 77 year old having sexual needs?

... and the "mother and son" aspect?

sodapop Mon 28-Feb-22 12:26:13

I don't have a problem with older people being interested and participating in sexual activity. However your friend does seem to be acting inappropriately BBbevan in sharing this with you. Seems like she has little inhibition and this could be a sign of dementia. Thinking about what your husband said its also possible she just wanted to shock and get your attention.

ShazzaKanazza Mon 28-Feb-22 12:29:21

BB I think it’s highly inappropriate she shared that with you. She was obviously wanting to shock you with that I think. I won’t even share with my two lifelong friends what I and my husband might or might not do and they are the same. I think I’d be keeping my distance from now on.

JaneJudge Mon 28-Feb-22 12:31:51

no wonder you were shocked.

Lyng17 Mon 28-Feb-22 12:31:55

That would be the end of the friendship for me. Absolutely sick.

Dickens Mon 28-Feb-22 12:32:29

The other side of the coin is the "father-daughter" porn sites.

And I bet most on here would be pretty repelled by that.

We all know it's 'role-play', but we are also probably aware of the many reports of the effects of porn on - mostly men's - minds, and their subsequent activity.

... and then saying her DH "wasn't up to much"... which is a bit of a disrespectful thing to say to someone you are not particularly close to as a friend.

I also dislike it when people make a point of putting their 'phone on the table like that. To me it's an anti-social gesture.

Hope the coffee was good! I would cross her off my Christmas card list...

missingmarietta Mon 28-Feb-22 12:32:35

The 'mother and son' stuff would cross my boundaries and the friendship would end.

She sounds delighted to have the opportunity to show it to you, probably knowing it would shock. Having the phone blatantly on the table was inviting some sort of posturing, I dislike show-offs anyway.

Whatever someone's sexual delectations I always think they are private and not something to brag about. It never impresses me, never has. Although this is in another league, I regard as a perversion.

lemsip Mon 28-Feb-22 12:50:18

she wouldn't be a friend of mine anymore and....neither would I have put it on here! I tend to not believe it happened!

Dickens Mon 28-Feb-22 12:55:37

lemsip

she wouldn't be a friend of mine anymore and....neither would I have put it on here! I tend to not believe it happened!

I thought the same (that it didn't happen) - but the poster has assured us it did.

If it happened to me, I'd instinctively know that it was - to use the popular phrase - inappropriate, and that would be the end of the friendship. Such as it was - they don't appear to have been great friends, which is just as well.

BBbevan Mon 28-Feb-22 13:01:08

The funny side of this is that we used to live near Watford. There was a large department store there that had a ‘Blue Cross’ sale every year. Bedding and stuff. Very similar cross to that was on Ms phone. I thought it might be a shopping app. Totally unprepared for what I saw.
I thank you for your replies and think that she probably has either dementia or some mental issue. Which is why I said I feel a little sorry for her.

Daisend1 Mon 28-Feb-22 13:08:57

To each his own has always been my policy. Provided my lifestyle and what I enjoy does not cause harm/ upset /inconvenience to others why not?

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 28-Feb-22 13:12:17

You would watch incestuous porn and maybe share it?

DaisyAnne Mon 28-Feb-22 13:17:00

M0nica

How common are these brain disorders and what other symptoms do they have?

The majority of the people watching sites like tha mentioned will just be ordinary peole with perverted sexual tastes.

Read the post again. That is not what I said. There seems to be a flood of the feigned misconstruing of posts - or is it an attempt at gas-lighting.? It's nasty whatever it is.

If I have misunderstood your intention and you actually want a deeper explanation email me and I will explain my experience of living with this.

Farzanah Mon 28-Feb-22 13:20:52

Weird or what. I don’t think I’d have kept quiet if a “friend” showed me similar. What someone does is their own business but why the need to share it I wonder?
Problem I have with pornography is we don’t know if it causes harm, either to the participants or viewers.

FannyCornforth Mon 28-Feb-22 13:21:54

What did you say when she showed it to you Bbb?

DaisyAnne Mon 28-Feb-22 13:24:13

You can't say much when your mouth falls open shock

SparklyGrandma Mon 28-Feb-22 13:29:10

Goodness me, I am speechless. A 77 year old has a sexuality, I agree - but hard core porn has become too “normal”. I would not be seeing her again.

It’s not that I don’t know how the world works, but I would never introduce a subject like that into a conversation - a friend or acquaintance could be triggered by discussing such things.

M0nica Mon 28-Feb-22 13:38:43

DaisyAnne I really cannot understand what your problem is. You said sounds like the sort of inappropriate behaviour that can come with some mental and some brain conditions that are caused by frontal lobe dysfunction

And I asked how many people had a brain dysfunction like this. Is it 1:10, 1:100, !:1.000. This is because these sites will have hundreds of thousands of viewers, some sharing them with friends. Are they all likely to have this problem or only a few of them.

Once one knows the probability, then one can hazard a guess which group this lady is likely to fall into.

I am like Ronseal I mean exactly what I say in my posts and do not deal in conspiracies, cabals groups of unpleasant people or any other groups tryig to undermine other people.

Dickens Mon 28-Feb-22 13:39:15

Farzanah

Weird or what. I don’t think I’d have kept quiet if a “friend” showed me similar. What someone does is their own business but why the need to share it I wonder?
Problem I have with pornography is we don’t know if it causes harm, either to the participants or viewers.

We are assured by those that watch it regularly, it does no harm.

I'm not convinced. Especially when it involves growing adolescents whose minds are still 'forming'. Or at the other end of the scale, disgruntled men, incels and those who can't form real-life relationships. And if it becomes an obsession - well, like gaming and other forms of 'entertainment' where someone shuts themselves away and lives in a bubble of their own addiction, you can legitimately question it's effects.

It might be harmless to a 'normal' mind - but not everyone fits that description.

Farzanah Mon 28-Feb-22 13:43:16

What if participants are coerced Dickens? I’m thinking perhaps trafficked, or drug dependent? I’m not of course suggesting that all participants are such, some may just do if for the money perhaps?

M0nica Mon 28-Feb-22 13:49:34

Dickens Well, they would wouldnt they (^We are assured by those that watch it regularly, it does no harm^) .

I just notice how time and time again in criminal cases where men have raped and killed women - and sometimes children, the accused has been described as addicted to all kinds of extreme porn showing mistreatment of women and girls.

In this case we do not know what age the 'sons' were. It could include children.

DaisyAnne Mon 28-Feb-22 13:58:12

M0nica

DaisyAnne I really cannot understand what your problem is. You said sounds like the sort of inappropriate behaviour that can come with some mental and some brain conditions that are caused by frontal lobe dysfunction

And I asked how many people had a brain dysfunction like this. Is it 1:10, 1:100, !:1.000. This is because these sites will have hundreds of thousands of viewers, some sharing them with friends. Are they all likely to have this problem or only a few of them.

Once one knows the probability, then one can hazard a guess which group this lady is likely to fall into.

I am like Ronseal I mean exactly what I say in my posts and do not deal in conspiracies, cabals groups of unpleasant people or any other groups tryig to undermine other people.

Look it up. You are just as capable as I am.

This may be of interest to others. It may be worth understanding that what is often called "frontal lobe dementia" which, along with head trauma and some mental illnesses show this symptom is not dementia as others are. It can, for instance, be from the damage caused by excessive alcohol intake.

Blossoming Mon 28-Feb-22 13:59:46

It’s not the porn, it’s the ‘mother and son’ porn. I’m surprised so many of you are OK with incest.