Are You a Lady? ?

Star Dreamer, to explain the different connotations of 'lady' and 'woman'. 'Lady' is twee because its use implies you think there is something low status about a plain 'woman'.

Similarly with calling every honest man a 'gentleman'. There is nothing wrong with a man or calling him a man, If you want to be sarcastic by all means call him a 'gentleman'.

Elrel

Can someone refresh my memory about naval terms of many years ago?
Officers and their Ladies.
??? and their Wives.
Ratings and their Women

Can't quite remember but was it

Officers and their Ladies
Senior ratings and their Wives
Lower ranks and their Women?

Quite demeaning and perhaps best forgotten!!

I don't like being called a "lady", but I HATE being called a "girl". I am 66 years old FFS!!! I prefer "woman/women". I also dislike "guys" - I am not a "guy". What's wrong with "people/folk"?

I knew it in its army version
Officers and their ladies
Sergeants and their wives
Other ranks and their women

also

men and horses sweat, gentlemen perspire, ladies feel the heat.

Can someone refresh my memory about naval terms of many years ago?
Officers and their Ladies.
??? and their Wives.
Ratings and their Women

It seems that, whatever I thought, I am neither a woman nor a lady. I told a friend I've just shifted some furniture and he told me I'm a game old gal! ?

GrannyGravy13

M’am and Sir are used frequently in USA in shops, hotels, cabs etc.

That annoys me a lot.
I've always disliked it especially in old American films where children or young people called older men Sir.

paddyann54

I really do live in a different world lol.I've never heard anyone called "squire" it would probab;y be an insult if it was said,calling someone a MAN is normal and when I was growing up every man in Glasgow was called Jimmy by workmates and other men in pubs and in the street ...I'm sure Billy Connelly did a great story about it

I think squire is probably more usual in the SE, paddyann

I had a Scots colleague and some called him Jimmy (I didn't).
However, it was mentioned as being derogatory on another thread, as is Taff (as DH was sometimes called) or Taffy.

It just seems that people have to tread on eggshells these days.

Aah OK

Sorry - I meant that at 13.49 I had asked whoever felt strongly about GSM's post to step forward and explain. That's still there.
Still waiting - bated breath job!

ixion what in earth was wrong with your 13.49 post to warrant it being reported ?‍♀️

?Hellooooo HQ?

Are you in a position yet to answer our questions here and in written requests, please?
Completely perplexed? here!
Thanks!

And if anyone would like to explain what had prompted them into reporting (v. post of 13;49), it'd be good to hear too!
Thanks again!

I can think lots of wats to refer to them Germanshepherdsmum all of which would get me banned ???

I can see your point Doodledog but like me you probably wouldn’t refer to someone who had killed children as a lady or gentleman whatever their social status. I trust this post won’t be deleted!

Wow ! I never thought at the beginning of this, what I call a lighthearted thread, that I would see deleted posts ! I saw the posts in question and I'm at a loss as to why - or am I missing something ?

Thank you.

No, not an unreasonable question, although I see 'lady' and 'gentleman' as being more about status and manners than good or evil. You could push someone off a cliff wearing white gloves or shoot them with your monogrammed pistol, engraved with the family coat of arms .

*Unreasonable.

During the discussion about the use of ‘lady’ and ‘gentleman’ one poster said they always used those terms. I asked if they would also refer to certain named people (the names being well known to us all), convicted of homicide, the victims being children, in those terms. That’s all. A not in reasonable question I thought, believing that might well be an exception to their normal practice.

Can anyone explain what was deleted (in suitably vague terms to comply with the suitably vague 'rules'), please?

(If not, feel free to use the PM function )

TIA.

Blimey, how/why were those posts deleted?

GN ain’t what it used to be

Why? Just 'why'?

Please will objectors state their reasoning for reporting.
Unless the Mods themselves were engrossed in the gladiatorial nature of the debate... ?

Search me. As I said before, we have had threads about named persons convicted of homicide.

I’ve just read “Talk Guidelines” and can’t understand it either GSM.
Are we moderated more severely than Mumsnet?

Yes ixion. I really don’t understand why the posts were deleted.

I did see the deleted posts, but don’t understand why they were deleted.