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Are You a Lady? ?

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FannyCornforth Mon 30-May-22 12:20:28

Hello!
(No, don’t worry, it’s not about toilets.)

What do you think about being called a lady?

I’ve found myself using the plural on a few occasions on here;
and I always slightly feel as if I should apologise, or ask permission.
In fact, in the past, I have done the latter.

As a young 80’s feminist, I used to really dislike the word; and I would berate my poor mother for using the word (what a flipping sanctimonious child I was!)

But now, I don’t mind lady at all, in fact I like it. Perhaps we should reclaim it…

So what do you think? Yay or nay?
(Now would be a fantastic time for the Mumsnet voting buttons - forget a like button, we need those bad boys)

Thank you smilebrew

Kim19 Mon 30-May-22 12:24:25

Wouldn't bother me particularly. Think woman is my preference.

lovebeigecardigans1955 Mon 30-May-22 12:28:24

I don't mind at all being called a lady. I don't swear in public, get drunk or show my knickers off and never spit. Other criteria must be available.

OTOH my late MIL made a right song and dance about being called a lady, preferring to be called a girl despite surviving to her mid-nineties.

Galaxy Mon 30-May-22 12:30:08

Ha I have never been a lady. I have done most of what lovebeige has described, except the spitting.

Elizabeth27 Mon 30-May-22 12:33:28

Woman is my preference but would prefer lady to girl, it makes me cringe when older women call themselves girls.

Purplepixie Mon 30-May-22 12:35:19

I really dont mind just as long as someone speak to me and isnt rude.

eazybee Mon 30-May-22 12:38:47

Unquestionably.

FannyCornforth Mon 30-May-22 12:39:01

Galaxy

Ha I have never been a lady. I have done most of what lovebeige has described, except the spitting.

Me too!
I still think that I’m a lady though (well, actually I think that I’m a perpetual 11 year old girl, but that’s another thread)

FannyCornforth Mon 30-May-22 12:42:42

Kim19

Wouldn't bother me particularly. Think woman is my preference.

Another ‘Me too’

But you can’t really say / type ‘what do you women think?’
And it’s not a sexist thing,
because like wise you wouldn’t say ‘what do you men think?’

Or would you?
I’ve always struggled with plurals for people. I hate guys, and find folk the best available word

OakDryad Mon 30-May-22 12:42:44

Absolutely not. It is riddled with socially divisive woman who is class association, entitlement and privilege c/f these dictionary definitions (OED):

The female head of a household; a woman who has authority over servants, attendants, or slaves.

A woman who rules over subjects, a queen; a woman to whom obedience or feudal homage is due.

Used when speaking of or to a woman who is of high rank, esp. a member of the nobility.

Prefixed to a title of honour or designation of office as an added mark of respect. Now only in fixed collocations e.g. Lady Mayor.

A woman having the characteristics traditionally associated with high social standing; a refined or genteel woman.

FannyCornforth Mon 30-May-22 12:45:09

OakDryad that’s why I suggested its ‘reclamation’

BlueSky Mon 30-May-22 12:51:10

No lady sounds too old. I rather be called a girl, (and I call my friend girls too) not offensive to me at all! I’m with lovebeige’s MIL here. Sorry to make you cringe Elizabeth!

grannyrebel7 Mon 30-May-22 12:51:23

I don't like being called a woman. It has negative connotations to my mind. Don't mind lady as it's more respectful , but would much prefer to be a girl or a guy!

GagaJo Mon 30-May-22 12:54:37

I'm a woman. Lady has connotations of certain behaviours and that in all of my long life, I've only met one or two real gentlemen, based on their behaviour, don't see why I should be held to a higher code.

Doodledog Mon 30-May-22 12:55:35

Elizabeth27

Woman is my preference but would prefer lady to girl, it makes me cringe when older women call themselves girls.

Exactly this.

'Lady' sounds ok(ish) to me when it comes from a small child, but that may well be a throwback to my own childhood. Otherwise, I prefer 'woman', and never 'girl' for anyone over 21 or so.

I don't mind 'Ladies and Gentlemen', although I'm now struggling to think of when I'm likely to hear that nowadays, as I don't hear many public speeches grin. Addressing a room as 'Men and Women' would sound a bit odd, though.

Cabbie21 Mon 30-May-22 12:56:43

I wouldn’t like to hear my hairdresser say to her Junior
“ would you shampoo my woman, please”. Lady is fine.
Sadly I am no longer a girl,

henetha Mon 30-May-22 12:59:08

I don't mind what people call me as long as it's said in a friendly and pleasant way.

NotSpaghetti Mon 30-May-22 13:03:34

Elizabeth27

Woman is my preference but would prefer lady to girl, it makes me cringe when older women call themselves girls.

I'm with you on this too!
Girls is a definite no!

Doodledog Mon 30-May-22 13:05:34

Why do adult women want to be called girls? I just don't understand it. It's not one of those things I can understand but don't agree with, it just makes no sense to me.

OakDryad Mon 30-May-22 13:08:01

This is an interesting exercise:

For each of the example sentences below, you have to decide whether to fill the blank with ‘woman/women’ or ‘lady/ladies’.

1. She was a perfect ——— about it.

2. The church flowers were arranged by the ——— of the congregation.

3. Esther thought of her grandmother as a strong and capable ———.

4. Some ——— reported that they experienced multiple orgasms.

5. In Victorian times, it was common for ———to die in childbirth.

6. A ———was raped in the city centre last night.

If you found yourself making an an intuitive preference can you explain why?

WharfedaleGran Mon 30-May-22 13:13:00

My preference is woman. Simple. None of that ugly “cis” malarkey in front of it either.

Blossoming Mon 30-May-22 13:15:02

I’m a woman, but I’m not offended by being referred to as a lady, or a guy for that matter.

FannyCornforth Mon 30-May-22 13:15:04

Doodledog

Why do adult women want to be called girls? I just don't understand it. It's not one of those things I can understand but don't agree with, it just makes no sense to me.

I can’t help but think that it’s an avoidance of the word women.

‘Prosecco with the girls’ envy

FannyCornforth Mon 30-May-22 13:17:10

Blossoming

I’m a woman, but I’m not offended by being referred to as a lady, or a guy for that matter.

I think that I dislike the word ‘guys’ so much as it’s heard so much in schools (by teachers to kids)
It’s especially loathsome when used with primary children.
It used to drive me potty, actually!

Jaxjacky Mon 30-May-22 13:21:26

Always reminds me of Little Britain ‘I’m a lady..’