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Is this enough in your view ?

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GibraltarRock42 Mon 20-Jun-22 22:15:22

Interested in the ‘gran’ perspective please….
Situation is this, 80yr old Mum, three adult kids, 2 live nearby, one further away but day trippable.

there are a few grandchildren ranging from primary to Uni age, so they are all at different stages. Dad passed away a while ago.

We siblings each phone Mum, one is less frequent but, nonetheless does if prompted. I phone once or twice a week. I nip in when I can, meet her for lunch, coffee etc (and she gets more of my undivided attention than any other of my siblings as I will
See her alone as well as with my dh/grandkids too).

Depending on my kids weekend commitments, I will cook lunch on a Sunday for her with dh and grandkids. In the winter it tends to be one in three Sundays - summer weekends are trickier. Other sibling who lives near, does the same but probably in addition, still needs more babysitting duties these days due to age of her kids, which my Mum loves doing.

Mum has friends, although some have died - she plays cards, visits gardens, has lunches. All of this and still it’s not quite enough. She is an ‘alone’ but ‘lonely’. I’m afraid I am quite clear about boundaries and don’t always make an excuse to soften the blow if she invites us over (she does this so she thinks she’ll guarantee our company) but I will simply say ‘We haven’t seen each other as a family much this week so are doing ‘x’ on Sunday but thank you for the invite’ - I will instead then make up for it with lunch or coffee alone the following week.

She has had a good life so far and done some lovely things but seems to now comment on what she won’t do/ can’t do/ will never do/ oh how lovely that would be which just makes us all feel guilty for us now having, (like she did at the same age) a good life. We are all less keen to see her for long periods. My kids used to love her company but now are keener to scarper after they have done their ‘duty’ I can’t fix it and she is entitled to feel resentful but it’s very wearing. Thoughts please !

queenofsaanich69 Wed 22-Jun-22 16:20:54

You sound very good & kind,you are all doing your best,does she read,watch Netflix,audiobooks,you tube has lots of interesting things can you suggest these——-I used to visit an old lady who was lonely ( family never visited)and tried to suggest these ideas

biglouis Wed 22-Jun-22 16:35:57

Im assuming you mother is still mobile and you say she drives. She would be getting quite a stern "be thanbkful for what you have" talk from me.

My grandmother was 96 when she died and lived alone and independently (with family support) til the end. The last few years she was not able to walk far but one family member came each day to do shopping/housework and chat. I visited every sunday despite a demanding work schedule and often for an hour after work in the week.

My grandmother would have hated that anyone found her a burden and never complained of being lonely. She had no TV - only a radio - as she would never allow her house to be fitted with electricity! Gas only. She was left a widow in her early 60s and lived on for almost 30 years without my grandpa so she learned to make a life for herself.

maddyone Wed 22-Jun-22 17:09:16

biglouis it’s lovely that your grandmother was able to live at home right to the end, but sadly it is not the norm. Even with carers and our daily input (which she had whilst she did live at home until one year ago) my mother can no longer live safely at home. Despite the difficulties that we’ve had with our relationship, I would never allow her to be uncared for, nor to allow her to be unsafe. We visit her in her care home regularly. I go about four times a week, my husband will go at least once, my DiL goes every Friday, and her grandchildren go at the weekends. She is visited on almost every day. We are also in the process of selling her flat, and for now we have to deal with all the business end of seeing to that. I have POA and look after all things financial for her. I’m nearly seventy, I’m ready to live my own life now without these responsibilities but it is what it is. I have to do it.

Fennel Thu 23-Jun-22 17:12:28

As an older gran I can idenify with your Mum. especially won'tdo, can't do etc.
I have various minor medical issues and blame those Sometimes.I wonder if we're suffering from a form of senile depression which comes and goes. I don't even want to answer the phone to someone who I know will say "How are you?"
Please don't blame yourself or family members.

sazz1 Thu 23-Jun-22 17:55:15

Really wish I had visited my mum more. When they are gone you never get that chance again. Miss her so much even now over 20 yrs later.

Lucca Thu 23-Jun-22 18:15:30

My mother complained incessantly for 30 years after my father died which made her resentful (not sad!). The result was that we all ended up dreading our visits to her.

Just a little perspective I’d like to give to these old people who complain that life isnt so great.. I’m 72 and have terminal cancer, what wouldn’t I give to have the prospect of living to be 80 !

Fudgemonkey Thu 23-Jun-22 21:19:17

I'd say it's old age, all my mother does is complain, complain, complain ?

MawtheMerrier Thu 23-Jun-22 23:31:39

Well said Lucca flowersflowers

rafichagran Fri 24-Jun-22 05:32:29

MawtheMerrier

Well said Lucca flowersflowers

Agree totally with the above.

maddyone Fri 24-Jun-22 10:17:31

So sorry Lucca ?

halfpint1 Fri 24-Jun-22 13:25:11

I became the sole family member involved with my Mum for the last 3 years of her life (with a small input from my kids).
My siblings abandoned her for their own reasons but mainly
because she was difficult, mean and miserable to be around.

It was exhausting, unrewarding and depressing but as I'd moved her to a retirement home near me I felt a duty to do
my best.

I held her hand untill she took her last breath and felt so
priviliged in that moment and since then I have missed her
but also felt at peace with myself that I did my best. My
siblings still struggle with guilt.
It is very hard when they are so difficult but has its rewards
eventually.

Puzzled Sun 26-Jun-22 19:14:22

Sadly, as we get older, we do lose family, and friends to various diseases. Sad, but she should avoid thinking negatively.
Try to get her to be positive and count her blessings. Tell her to think of all the things that CAN do that other of her friends no longer can.
Sounds selfish perhaps, but keeping positive is important. Without being positive, she is giving up on life.
We are both over 80 and still do the things that we enjoy.
Yes, we are sad that we have lost friends who are younger than us, but life is not for the faint hearted.