Has anyone reported a non-taxed vehicle to the DVLA and did they take action?

If you look upthread I did acknowledge she had done the right thing in taking it up.

I am however aware, living in a city with friends from different cultures, that sometimes people assume that they are "foreign" because of the colour of their skin, and it does genuinely affect their lives and that of their families to have it assumed.

Therefore I do take opportunities to gently point out to people this may be the case.

I don't get offended. I heave a sigh, feel sad, and concerned for those friends I have, and make my point.

The man spoke to her, therefore OP could tell he wasn’t British. I have already made that point. Why so much heckling of her for a simple comment? In my area, which is out in the sticks, most Evri, Yodel and Amazon drivers are foreign.

Should add: not just assume they are "foreign" but possibly not here legally just because of their colour!

We have an Evri/formerly Hermes driver, been coming for years. He is polite & friendly and we usually exchange a few words even though it is obvious he has a very busy schedule.
I cannot understand why such a fuss is being made about using the word foreigner or why it is considered so offensive by some. How was the OP supposed to describe him "as a young person, possibly of non English/British origin"? If I were to describe someone as a foreign gentleman or lady would that be more acceptable? something I am likely to do in an ordinary conversation to convey that they were not English/British speaking nationals. I think 25Avalon was right in reporting this, that is why the facility to do so is provided on the website.

You're missing my point.

A non- white person is not inevitably "foreign", the majority are not, including those with limited use of English,

.... and it led to the comment I picked up on, where it was suggested their legality to be working was questionable

In the current climate it is naive to think that it's not an issue and there is some kind of over reaction here from me as I have concerns in these current issues for the reaosdsns I outlined above, assumptions being made.

I totally fail to understand your point. Non-white person with limited use of English not foreign?

Callistemon21

welbeck

i don't think any are after one year ?

I think that is right.
You can exchange your driving license for a UK one if you are here for longer.

You have to resit both the written and driving aspects of the test again to get a Brittish license.. I've just witnessed my Indian neighbours( who have driven for many years in India) have to go through this process. Its rigorous!
Whats more , regardless of how long you have had a license in another country you are not allowed to be a passenger /teacher of someone learning to drive for 2 years after you pass the test!

Just found this:
What is the Old English word for foreigner?
In Old English, *:walbaz developed into wealh, retaining the inherited meaning 'a foreigner, more particularly a pre-Anglo-Saxon inhabitant of Britain who spoke Celtic or Latin or both'.

I can imagine the outrage if I called someone a walbaz

Germanshepherdsmum

I totally fail to understand your point. Non-white person with limited use of English not foreign?

At no point has Avalon said he had limited use of English. I have read every post.
An accent was mentioned.

I’m talking about your post of 13.42.06 Wyllow,

I didn't say the courier had limited use of English.

In that post I made general remarks that some UK citizens have limited English.

I was making a genuine general comment about assumptions in that post becuase "assumptions made" is pertinent to my overall point.

A25Avalon and others in this discussion are quite right that courier should have been reported for both rude, arrogant behaviour and not being insured.

But when it got to the stage of a post (ie where I first came into the discussion) that suggested he might possibly be checked for illegally working as as result of suspicions he was a "foreigner" - thats when I wanted make my point.
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Germanshepherdsmum

I agree utterbliss. People who report crimes are to be applauded - and yes, there are many who are always looking for the next thing to be offended by. Life’s too short.

as a lawyer (as you keep reminding us)- you know that these things DO matter, enormously.

Thank you Willow3- indeed. I lived for over 30 years in a town where this was evident day in, day out.

They obviously matter to you (as you keep reminding us). Frankly if someone can’t speak English very well and they have no learning disability they are, to me, very likely to be a foreigner. As you were once.

Can you now let this silly thing go?

Would be a lot easier if you did. As a lawyer - you know these things and prejudices do matter.

I've never looked like a foreigner, and I was bilingual in 6 months- oh and had to re-take my driving licence in full, in English and in outer London. Ta.

Now GSM, calling it "silly" is just provocation.

Some of us hold strong genuine views on the matter that happen to be different from yours:

and we have every right to put them, and if necessary clarify what we are saying, if challenged.

*GSM 👏🏻

FP
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I have no intention to provoke but I do get fed up with people picking arguments for the sake of it. It happens so often on GN and always leads to nastiness. The OP just made a throwaway comment but it was seized upon by those looking for an argument. I am not looking for an argument. I couldn’t care less if her delivery person came from Mars.

Not my speciality fleurpepper. Your husband might have been a general practitioner. I was a specialist. I’m sure you understand the difference,

Thanks Imogen. Most apposite I think.

The thing that puzzles me about this bickering is just how did colour get brought into it.

On reading the OP my initial thought was that the driver was probably Eastern European.

'Not my speciality fleurpepper. '

disingenuous nonsense, and you know it.

Wyllow, not sure who GSM was in the past- but we all know she will jump on my posts every single time. Who is looking for trouble here?

Any lawyer, whatever their speciality, will know the importance of avoiding prejudice based on all sorts of criteria- race included.

Thank you to OP for saying nationality/race was irrelevant.

ImogenMac- cheap, very cheap.

Not disingenuous nonsense Fleurpepper. You obviously don’t know much about specialisms within legal practice.

You wonder who I was ‘in the past’. Unlike you I have not had a different identity on GN. I know you have had several. I only pick up your posts for reasons that I state at the time, but posts under past identities may of course colour my opinion,

Cressida

The thing that puzzles me about this bickering is just how did colour get brought into it.

On reading the OP my initial thought was that the driver was probably Eastern European.

Exactly.

I chat to a lot of people usually when I ‘m walking the dog. And the conversations go off in all sorts of directions. But I often find myself happily chatting away and the person I’m talking to will slip in something about foreigners and I immediately want to end the conversation and walk away. Quite often there’s no actual reason for the subject of foreigners to enter conversation. It’s always puzzled me as it isn’t something I’d do myself. I used to go to the sauna at a time when several elderly men used to have a swim and sauna. And they used to talk about foreigners. So I started to go at a different time.And when I was still working the people in the waiting room would start talking about foreigners and I would have to go into the dispensary to avoid joining in with the conversation as they were blaming them for everything.

In my gym...
There are about 50% "foreigners" as defined by many so..even if its in some heads its not spoken.
But tbh they probably wouldn't join it if they felt that way. Given some of the workers are "foreign".

It's a great place to go as variety is spice of life and say in the sauna one ends oneself in interesting conversations. food, lifestyles, sometimes current affairs.

Maybe it depends where one is situated living and work wise?

Germanshepherdsmum

The man spoke to her, therefore OP could tell he wasn’t British. I have already made that point. Why so much heckling of her for a simple comment? In my area, which is out in the sticks, most Evri, Yodel and Amazon drivers are foreign.

How on earth can you tell by talking to someone for 30 seconds what their nationality is?