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Has anyone reported a non-taxed vehicle to the DVLA and did they take action?

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25Avalon Mon 17-Jul-23 10:17:11

Two weeks ago I was working in the garden some distance from the house when Evri arrived to deliver a parcel. I asked the driver to take the parcel to the door as per delivery instructions but he refused and threw the parcel at me before getting back into his van. He roared off quickly, backwards, when he saw me take my mobile out to take a photo of his van which I thought was suspicious. I’ve complained to Lakeland the supplier and Evri but nothing back.

Then on Saturday I saw this van being driven in the village with the same young foreign man driving. I took a note of the number and on checking through DVLA when I got home discovered its road tax ran out in May. This means he is driving around untaxed and uninsured as a courier. I’ve reported it online but will DVLA take any action? Does anyone know?

argymargy Wed 19-Jul-23 06:45:58

MayBee70

I chat to a lot of people usually when I ‘m walking the dog. And the conversations go off in all sorts of directions. But I often find myself happily chatting away and the person I’m talking to will slip in something about foreigners and I immediately want to end the conversation and walk away. Quite often there’s no actual reason for the subject of foreigners to enter conversation. It’s always puzzled me as it isn’t something I’d do myself. I used to go to the sauna at a time when several elderly men used to have a swim and sauna. And they used to talk about foreigners. So I started to go at a different time.And when I was still working the people in the waiting room would start talking about foreigners and I would have to go into the dispensary to avoid joining in with the conversation as they were blaming them for everything.

Exactly! People who throw the word “foreigner” around are looking for reasons not to like them. Fear of people who are different from you is quite an unpleasant trait.

Hetty58 Wed 19-Jul-23 07:10:46

25Avalon, I agree that the driving of many delivery vans is dodgy at best. (Here, an Amazon driver never closes the back doors.) They do their rounds in a very rushed and careless manner.

Still, the driver works for Evri - and not for you. If I'm in the garden (closer to their van than the house) then, of course, they'll give the parcel to me. I wouldn't dream of telling them to put it by (or through) the door!

Your later behaviour seems like a witch hunt to me - a (childish) desire to get your own back. Ok, so the van is untaxed, do report it - then forget it!

25Avalon Wed 19-Jul-23 10:50:31

Thank you Hetty, what nice comments. You must be having a bad day - I’m a generous person who does not make horrid remarks. Please read my previous post.

I have a large garden. The back gate is a long way and not visible from the door. I have a dodgy back. I cannot carry heavy parcels. I request and pay for delivery to the door. All other carriers do this. Throwing parcels at people’s feet and yelling at them is rude - perhaps you do not understand this although I can see why that would be.

If this driver hurtles around with no tax and therefore no insurance he is not only breaking the law, but is a DANGER to others so I have reported it. However I can no longer order from anyone who uses Evri as a carrier so I can’t completely forget all about this incident from an aggressive individual with whom you seem to feel sympathy. From the tone of your post I can appreciate why. I also understand why new posters disappear from GN very quickly.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 19-Jul-23 10:59:25

Summerlove

Germanshepherdsmum

The man spoke to her, therefore OP could tell he wasn’t British. I have already made that point. Why so much heckling of her for a simple comment? In my area, which is out in the sticks, most Evri, Yodel and Amazon drivers are foreign.

How on earth can you tell by talking to someone for 30 seconds what their nationality is?

You neither know the length of the exchange nor how heavy his accent was - and nobody has presumed to identify his nationality.

ElaineI Wed 19-Jul-23 12:57:50

Thanks all who answered my question. Had no idea you could do this.

Summerlove Wed 19-Jul-23 15:04:46

An accent does not mean foreign though GSM.

It doesn’t matter how long a conversation is, or how heavy accent is. Unless someone tells you, they are not British, you have no idea if they are in fact, a foreigner.

But of course, you knew that.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 19-Jul-23 15:09:44

I only speak to my delivery drivers for a few seconds. With one exception, who is British, their accents show that they are foreign. How stupid do you think I am?

Callistemon21 Wed 19-Jul-23 15:18:40

I might ask where someone is from because accents interest me and I like to identify them.
I asked a young man who comes to do some work on the house where he was from because I couldn't identify his accent, his name sounds French, and his answer surprised me but it resulted in a chat about his country.

Is it wrong to be interested?

toscalily Wed 19-Jul-23 15:34:55

Summerlove Someone could of course be British by obtaining British citizenship but it is most likely they would retain their accent.

We all have accents to a greater or lesser degree and if you have lived & worked here or abroad where you were frequently engaged with those who's first language was not English you will probably be able to detect accents from certain geographical areas by your experience. To say that you cannot know from a short conversation is incorrect.

Wyllow3 Wed 19-Jul-23 15:39:00

It fascinates me Callistemon21! Including of course the myriad of Brit accents. I cant manage to understand a true Glaswegian accent for example at all.

I just tread gently as some people love to talk about country or area of their or their family's origins but it used to be the case - for example - that someone who looked and spoke as if they came from Jamaica turned out to come from Birmingham and were just fed up of being asked where they came from when their whole upbringing was Brit.

So I find at the gym some love to talk about it and others don't bit let a conversation take the turn it might.

Callistemon21 Wed 19-Jul-23 15:44:39

Wyllow3

It fascinates me Callistemon21! Including of course the myriad of Brit accents. I cant manage to understand a true Glaswegian accent for example at all.

I just tread gently as some people love to talk about country or area of their or their family's origins but it used to be the case - for example - that someone who looked and spoke as if they came from Jamaica turned out to come from Birmingham and were just fed up of being asked where they came from when their whole upbringing was Brit.

So I find at the gym some love to talk about it and others don't bit let a conversation take the turn it might.

Some people retain their accents, others pick up accents from wherever they live.

Lenny Henry is from Dudley and his imaginary conversation with his Jamaican mother was very funny indeed.

Wyllow3 Wed 19-Jul-23 16:15:04

I try to play ‘guess the place’ whether it’s English or another language altogether or non English accent. I guess we are all interested in different things.

Allsorts Wed 19-Jul-23 16:39:24

Avalon, what nasty comments again from some people. I certainly don’t think it’s a witch hunt to report an untaxed vehicle, that means no valid insurance etc. the implications of that should an accident occur are tremendous. Those of us that drive would not dream of having no tax, mot insurance etc. it’s your responsibility and law requires it, however I have heard from a reliable source nothing is done unless you make a fuss. It’s a disgrace really, this turning a blind eye to things or to mock people that posts. Just because there is a section of the population that thinks anything goes most of us don’t,

Summerlove Wed 19-Jul-23 16:41:15

Germanshepherdsmum

I only speak to my delivery drivers for a few seconds. With one exception, who is British, their accents show that they are foreign. How stupid do you think I am?

I don’t think you’re stupid at all. I think you’re likely very clever.

I also think you’re being disingenuous with this conversation.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 19-Jul-23 16:49:26

Do you? Well you're entitled to your opinion of course. That's in response to your second paragraph btw. I won't argue with the first.

Beetlejuice Wed 19-Jul-23 16:55:21

I think that some people are so determined to appear open minded that their brains have fallen out.

Wyllow3 Wed 19-Jul-23 17:38:17

Beetlejuice

I think that some people are so determined to appear open minded that their brains have fallen out.

I was just brought up that way: Mum and Dad talked a lot about how interesting difference was and about the old Empire attitudes in the 1950's about "natives" and the N word:

I arrived at Uni that way and nothing happened there changed my mind studying History and English, indeed, the contrary:

we were taught to think critically and I met people from over the world in the late 1960's: people obvs reached different conclusions in that thinking while I was there and it was frequently discussed : its a way of life, a way of perceiving the world and all the peoples in it, not "Agenda" driven.

Beetlejuice Wed 19-Jul-23 17:44:04

Aye right.

Wyllow3 Wed 19-Jul-23 17:47:44

I should add that my beliefs are also for many years rooted in Quaker traditions, not uncritically, but back in 1688 a classic text said,

“we shall doe to all men licke as we will be done ourselves; macking no difference of what generation, descent or Colour they are”

Mollygo Wed 19-Jul-23 17:57:26

In answer to the OP, yes I have reported a vehicle which might well be untaxed, simply because it has been left at the roadside and is gradually deteriorating. Since the police, in their ANPR vehicle seem to ignore it, I presume it must be taxed despite its state.

welbeck Wed 19-Jul-23 18:02:03

can't you just look it up online to verify taxed ?

Cressida Wed 19-Jul-23 20:21:27

Mollygo did you report it to your local council as an abandoned vehicle?

Wyllow3 Wed 19-Jul-23 20:29:06

Found this welbeck but it can be running 5 days behind.

www.gov.uk/check-vehicle-tax

Allsorts Thu 20-Jul-23 05:31:20

It's the firm that owns the fan whose at fault, not the man driving it. He is just doing the job he's paid to do. I can't see big firms not taxing their vehicles. I personally have never thought to question whether a vehicle is taxed or not but believe the police can check in an instant if there is anything suspicious. Times are hard for a lot of people, can't see many drivers checking the vans insurance.

Wyllow3 Thu 20-Jul-23 09:37:34

I suppose it depends if its a firm who use their own branded vans, or the driver is working on contract in their own vehicle, and I don't know which Evri are.