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How can I deal with my friends cancelling on me?

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SunnySusie Sun 28-Jan-24 19:49:22

Its really getting me down now. The third cancellation of arrangements to meet up with friends since the New Year. I am hurt and upset. These are all long standing friends. Every time the reason given is grandchildren. It seems that even going out to the park with the grandkids is something which will cause friends to cancel our invitation to cook them lunch. Can someone who is a gran explain it to me? In the case of the latest cancellation (for a date in late Feb!) the grandkids live just round the corner so my friends see them most days. I wonder whether its because we dont have any grandchildren ourselves (a source of much sadness for us) and although we listen to them talking about their grandchildren we are not really able to join in. I am getting disinclined to issue any more invites and I have known one set of friends for over 40 years.

Ramblingrose22 Mon 29-Jan-24 12:52:54

I have only been cancelled once by a former friend who refused to say, when challenged, why she had cancelled me and gave different reasons to different mutual friends who asked her about it.

It was very upsetting but it was nothing to do with GCs as neither of us had any at that time. She was annoyed with me over something and knew that if she came out with it she would appear petty and acting in a disproportionate way, which were both true.

If the OP's friends are always letting her down because of commitments to their GCs they should simply be up front about it and explain that it may be necessary to cancel at short notice if a sudden emergency comes up with any of their GCs.

SunnySusie - as it happens I too have no GCs and I empathise with you if I have to listen to long descriptions (or what could be described as boasting) by other people' about their GCs. If I ever have GCs I hope I will be more sensitive than that.

grannyactivist Mon 29-Jan-24 12:41:58

I’m sorry you’re disappointed and understand your frustration.

It very rarely happens, but I have friends who are very understanding when it comes to me having to postpone previously made arrangements. They all know that I have family members who rely on me occasionally for emergencies or support, and they know if they were in need I would prioritise helping them over having lunch with a friend or family member.

I’m all for getting things out into the open rather than overthinking things. Do you feel able to talk about your feelings of disappointment with your friends? If not then either the friendship(s) has run its course, or you need to find ways to deal with your frustrations for the sake of maintaining the relationships(s).

Priviliged Mon 29-Jan-24 12:38:33

Maybe try asking them to give you a few dates they could do in the next few weeks and, if they don't or can't, then you have left the ball in their court and can gently move away and invite other people.
Maddyone is spot on. If they are 'good' friends they should know that you are saddened by having no grandchildren and only refer to theirs briefly.
Other people's grandchildren are frankly a boring topic of conversation and it's rude to continue this sort of twaddle. (And I have 5 who I love dearly but don't bore the proverbial off people by constantly talking about them!)

Cossy Mon 29-Jan-24 12:35:42

I think you might be reading far too much into them cancelling. Lots of my friends, and myself, rearrange social dates quite a lot. Grandchildren, illness, unexpected domestic things, so many reasons, it’s fine.

In terms of Grandchildren, this could be a variety of reasons, school shit, parents unwell, children unwell ???

Just don’t let these minor setbacks upset so much, it’s disappointing, but not the end of the world, so something nice for yourself instead, cuppa and cake and a good book, or a film on Netflix or a nice walk and a bit of retail therapy?

Bazza Mon 29-Jan-24 12:31:42

I would never cancel a meeting with a friend because of grandchildren unless it was an emergency. My DD certainly wouldn’t expect me to if they knew I had arranged something with a friend. We’ve certainly done our share over the years though!

grandtanteJE65 Mon 29-Jan-24 12:29:01

Having known at least one of these people for 40 years, you presumably know her well enough to ask straight out what is going on.

I admit that grandparents, or anyone else, who have promised to look after school- or kindergarden children when they are off sick and the parents cannot take time off work, can be forced to cancel. However, cancelling now for a date in February hardly falls in that category.

Ask them what is going on, whether they feel the friendship has deteriorated or what. Say nicely, that you feel hurt and that you hate feeling this way and want to know exactly where you are.

I just do not get this pussy-footing around, feeling hurt attitude instead of asking, which so many Gransnetters seem to do. My father would have said, "You've a good Scots tongue in your heid, lassie." meaning ask if you want to know something.

Fae1 Mon 29-Jan-24 12:28:10

Blood tends to be thicker than water. Sad for you but true!

Debbi58 Mon 29-Jan-24 12:19:23

I have 3 grandchildren, all at school. February half term is early this year . They break up on 9th Feb, when we first became grandparents 13 years ago. We lost our closest friends, they never wanted children, so obviously never had grandchildren. My daughter was a young Mum and split with the babies dad soon after the birth, her health wasn't good either . We often got unexpected calls for help , we tried not too cancel Arrangements with our friends but their simply was no-one else to help my daughter . They got fed up eventually and stopped contacting us and ignored any messages from us, we were hurt at the time , but still feel we did the right thing for our family

Suzieque66 Mon 29-Jan-24 12:17:01

If you feel they are using the Grandchildren as an excuse then let them suggest the next meeting ? .. I'm not saying this to upset you but in the past I have had difficulty ending a friendship not because of any argument or a disagreement just that I felt I no longer had anything much in common with the friend ...

knspol Mon 29-Jan-24 12:10:04

If I've made an arrangement then I stick to it. If there was an emergency/illness then of course that would change but imo it's impolite to do otherwise even if it turns out to be inconvenient for some reason. As others have said, I would now wait for any invites to come to you from your friends rather that the other way round. If none arrive then the friendship has reached it's end.

PamQS Mon 29-Jan-24 12:07:24

This happened to me with one particular friend, and the reason wasn’t grandchildren, but simply that she’d had a better offer! So after going through the hurt about being ‘dumped’ for newer friends, I thought about it and realised I never cancelled on her - at least, I don’t think I did! So I made it a rule that if she cancelled for no good reason, I wouldn’t reorganise - I’d say we should postpone until she was less busy. I never said anything to her about her habit of dropping our arrangements at short notice, perhaps I should have done. Anyway, this decision not to rearrange at short notice did make me feel less messed around by her, and I realised if I was always apparently happy to change the arrangement, she’d think I didn’t mind!

SeaWoozle Mon 29-Jan-24 11:51:21

I have two very good friends who I rarely see due to distance. One lives three hours away (on a rather challenging drive!) and the other is in America for the time being. Whilst I appreciate it's a little different, we also tend to faff and put off having chats or meeting up. But eventually we pin each other down and tonight we're having a WhatsApp video chat for the first time in months. Whilst it has nothing to do with grandchildren, I think even without them, it's difficult to save a few hours to catch up with friends as we're always chasing something. And whilst I love the idea of spending time with some of my favourite people, there is still that little voice in the back of my head asking "Yeah, but what ELSE could you be doing?!".

There is also nothing stopping you saying to these people that you're disappointed that once again your plans have been scuppered. What's not to say that they're disappointed too. Times are hard for many younger families and it's the older generation who are having to step up to the plate for childcare. I wouldn't want my children to spend unnecessary cash on childcare if I could step in and help. I also know, however, if I'd previously made plans with good friends I'd be sad they'd have to change. That said, I'm not certain that will ever happen as my kids are almost definite in their decision not to have children. Sad for me (selfishly!) but I've almost made my peace with that, respect their decisions and am exceptionally proud of everything they've achieved otherwise.

Purplepixie Mon 29-Jan-24 11:46:56

I can understand your hurt but my time with my grandchildren is special. I don’t see them as much as your friends do. But I have to say that if I have an arranged meeting with one of my friends then I would try and rearrange the visit around my grand kids, but that is me. Please don’t let it get to you too much and spoil your friendships.

WoodLane7 Mon 29-Jan-24 11:44:29

To be blunt and honest - and apologies as I know it may not be what you are wanting to hear - I think its time to start looking for new friends........

Chris4159 Mon 29-Jan-24 11:42:51

As Grandparent it is just as annoying for us to keep cancelling invitations. I feel bad having to cancel due to childcare issues. Our hands are tied really when parents have to work and a child is ill. Then school holiday cover. Perhaps meet up with just one instead of a large group and take it from there. As retired Grandparents most of did not expect to be back doing school runs etc again.

Blinko Mon 29-Jan-24 11:41:45

maddyone

Whatever the reason, I don’t understand why the people cancelling don’t suggest a couple of other more suitable dates for the meet-up. If they valued the friendship they would do that. As for the suggestion that the OP should join in a conversation about other people’s grandchildren when she doesn’t have any of her own (which is a source of sadness to her) I say no, the friends should be the ones making an effort to not dominate the conversation with talk about grandchildren, but to talk more generally about subjects that everyone can talk about. That would be polite. It is not polite and is unfeeling for people to dominate conversations talking about their grandchildren, especially to a person who has none and would dearly love to have grandchildren.

I totally agree.

Oasthouse that was so inconsiderate of your friend. Are they still a friend, even?

Theexwife Mon 29-Jan-24 11:36:16

Sometimes you have to accept that people do not want to spend time with you, either because they would rather spend time with their grandchildren or they simply dont want to and are too polite to say.

Stop issuing invites and you will see if they contact you to arrange a get together.

rafichagran Mon 29-Jan-24 11:16:38

I have Grandchildren and for what it is worth I think it is rude and ignorant to let people down. I have never done it especially three times.
I dont think it is being a Grandmother that is the problem, I think it is her attitude to it.
Time to move on OP she is not genuine.

Esmay Mon 29-Jan-24 11:16:34

My mother had a weekly arrangement to go antique hunting (they hoped !) and lunching with an old chum .
The friend didn't want to do anything else and mum began to get fed up spending hours in the car longing for a tea and a pee .
Rather than tell the friend that she wasn't happy with the arrangement - she began to use me as an excuse .
This caused a massive row and a lot of bad feelings .
On one occasion , this lady called me a user and an exploiter of my mother !

It's natural for these grandparents to want to be with their grandchildren and maybe their children are taking advantage of them , but perhaps they have little or no choice .

Three times since the New Year does seem a lot .
Perhaps , it would be best to stop inviting them for now .

pascal30 Mon 29-Jan-24 11:04:09

I think that circumstances change and we have to adapt to them, friendships take work,trust and honesty.. I would not repeat your invitations but just see if they invite you to something.. it might well be that this friendship has run it's course and you can thank them for the time you did enjoy together but move on to make friends you have common interests with. It is not a failure it's just reality.. things change

nadateturbe Mon 29-Jan-24 11:01:11

Agree with AgaA4.

AGAA4 Mon 29-Jan-24 10:49:07

Most people will put their family, especially much loved grandchildren, before friends.
I wonder how pleasant these visits are for you if your friends talk about their grandchildren and your sadness as you have none.
As they have cancelled several times perhaps leave them to get in touch and hopefully you can find other friends who don't have grandchildren who you will have more in common with.

RosiesMaw Mon 29-Jan-24 10:32:43

It seems that once you have grandchildren, you no longer have a life of your own

Oh dear what a sour and bitter reflection!
You could say that once you have children you no longer have a life of your own
Or, once you have a loving partner you no longer have a life of your own
Or once you have friends..etc etc
A life of your own can too often be a life on your own and part of loving relationships is spending time with them, putting them first, giving (and receiving) love in return. And you do this out of choice -not out of obligation or duty.

So by all means rejoice in your life of your own remembering it can too often end up as a sad and lonely life on your own.

Knitandnatter Mon 29-Jan-24 07:40:40

SunnySusie, you state that this is the third time this has happened since the New Year, so rather than you suggesting another arrangement to your friends why don't you let them take the lead by saying "it is unfortunate that you've had to cancel and I do understand that family comes first but can you offer up some convenient dates as we would love to get together" and leave it at that.
As others have suggested, some friendships do run their course and come to a natural end, which is unfortunate but it does happen.
Half term does fall in mid-February in my area although this might vary with different counties.
Cut these friends some slack, they've cancelled because of grandchildren.

Curtaintwitcher Mon 29-Jan-24 07:21:18

It seems that once you have grandchildren, you no longer have a life of your own! Odd how it is taken for granted that you will be thrilled to take over care of them. My neighbour is constantly called on as a child-minder. She grumbles that she never gets a minute to herself, but she doesn't say no. She envies the fact that I am free to go out on a whim whenever I wish.
I think grandparents should set down rules right from the start. Make it clear just what you are prepared to do, but don't allow your children to take it for granted that you are always available.