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Roobi Wed 15-May-24 02:37:46

I recently spent ny 60th birthday alone as sadly I no longer have any family and none of my good friends live nearby.

I wasn’t expecting much, but did hope my oldest and closest friend of nearly 50 years might remember the day. I didn’t receive any cards or presents and never even got a phone call, but spent the day secretly hoping a bunch of flowers or bottle of wine might arrive on the doorstep - it didn’t.

A card from my friend arrived about a week later, followed by a book from Amazon in the post.

My birthday was bloody awful, to be honest - I don’t think I’ve ever felt more lonely. It was inescapably a milestone, and I felt so worthless and unloved.

When I told ny friend I was disappointed not to hear from her, her response was, “you’re joking! I hope you regret saying that!”

I know my self-esteem has often been low, but am I wrong to think a good friend should want to help you celebrate the milestones in your life?

Vito Wed 15-May-24 10:45:42

Happy belated birthday Roobi ,

I'm sorry it was 💐miserable for you. I would have been just as upset. Good advice from the kind grans on here, as for the spiteful responses ignore them, they're not worth the head space . 💐

crazyH Wed 15-May-24 10:44:21

Belated birthday wishes Roobi -I really would feel sad if no one remembered my birthday. You say you have no longer have any family. I find that sad - you are only 60. You shouldn’t be feeling like this at your age. I’m glad you have lots of interests. Dont dwell too much on the negative . Belated birthday wishes flowers I wish I was 60 😂

welbeck Wed 15-May-24 10:42:12

Curtaintwitcher

Roobi

Thanks,Welbeck - I haven’t been ‘under the weather’ and I have diverse interests. What possesses people on here to think they have this superior insight into others” lives? Groan.

That response to sympathy might give a clue as to why your birthday was ignored.

indeed

welbeck Wed 15-May-24 10:41:08

well, that's me slapped down.
i was actually trying to be positive, supportive.
no matter.
and thanks to Curtaintwitcher, Aveline, MOnica and BlueBelle.

Patsy70 Wed 15-May-24 10:38:04

Wishing you a Happy Belated 60th Birthday, Roobi. 💐 If you are now feeling well, maybe you could visit your friends and celebrate your birthday with them, taking them out for lunch, afternoon tea or dinner? As others have said, 60 is still young!

keepingquiet Wed 15-May-24 10:37:15

I sort of have an unwritten agreement with my friends that birthdays don't have to be just that one day.

We often just turn up weeks, sometimes months, later with a belated gift. Sometimes we don't bother.

For me the nature of friendship isn't just about those milestones days. You have another whole year to celebrate being 60!

Milestone birthdays can be triggers, though, for things going on under the surface. Not long after my 60th birthday a long term relationship came to an end. I had to seriously re-assess my life and it was so much easier than I thought it would be!

I managed to keep the job I loved and moved away to be closer to my family and friends.

Sometimes we have to be brave- we think 60 is a milestone but it isn't- every single day matters, not just those marked out for celebrating.

I do hope you see your friend soon and spend the time having fun and not being resentful to each other.

It isn't easy making new friends when we get older- in six years I haven't managed it- but I have worked on my older relationships and it has been very worthwhile.

I wish you well, don't be hard on yourself or on others- life is worth squeezing some joy out of regardless of what's gone on before.

Tenko Wed 15-May-24 10:35:17

Happy belated birthday Roobi.
I think I would be upset if a close friend didn’t acknowledge my birthday especially a big one . But I do understand that cards sending is not a big thing now . Whether that’s cost or time , who knows .
I send cards to my family , their siblings and OH and to close friends .
I must admit sometimes it’s late . I buy a card and then forget to write and send it in time .
I also send birthday wishes via text WhatsApp or Facebook to all friends and family members.
I’m glad your health is better and hopefully you can get out and about .

zakouma66 Wed 15-May-24 10:30:08

Popped you a message Roobi. For what its worth, I think freindships are fragile things.

DamaskRose Wed 15-May-24 10:19:32

I’m so sorry about your birthday Roobi, I think I would have felt the same. My DS once forgot Mother’s Day flowers and it has become a family joke that I’ve never let him forget it! 😂 But I was upset at the time … I’ll let you know if he forgets my 70th birthday later this year!!
You have lots of interests and that’s good but maybe those people are not close friends. All I can say is try to get over it and ignore hurtful comments where ever they come from.
As for expensive cards and postage - if anyone is interested Whistlefish sells beautiful cards very reasonably and 85p for a stamp is surely not too much to brighten someone’s special day? I hope at least some of the replies on here help a little bit Roobi.
cupcake wine flowers

Maggiemaybe Wed 15-May-24 09:59:06

Oh dear. Is it really so much trouble and effort now to remember a friend’s special birthday and acknowledge it, even if that friend’s living on her own and not on social media? I find that very sad.

Apparently we buy over 800 million cards every year in the UK, so plenty of other people must feel as I do.

Doodledog Wed 15-May-24 09:36:08

I'm sorry your birthday was a disappointment, Roobi. I'm sure your friend didn't mean to hurt you. She may have had other things going on in her own life that got in the way, but I can understand you feeling upset that she didn't phone you or ping you a message.

More generally though, and not directly connected to the OP, I don't think that the only reason cards are going out of fashion is the cost, as suggested above. The politics of card sending put me off it ages ago. People get upset if someone forgets, expect reciprocal cards (even crossing people off lists if they don't reciprocate) see them as an obligation, assume that if they don't get a card it's because the would-be sender 'couldn't be bothered', threaten not to continue to give presents to children who don't send cards - on and on it goes.

The bad feeling cards can cause makes them a liability, IMO. They are profit-spinners for the manufacturers, bad for the environment and getting a hundred bits of cheap card with mass-produced verses inside does not make someone more loved than if they didn't get any. It's more to do with the expectations and culture of their family and friends.

I know people (eg my mum) who continue to see her worth in terms of the number of cards she gets, proudly displaying them on every surface of her sitting room as proof to visitors that she 'matters'. I wouldn't dream of not sending her a card for every birthday, Christmas, Mothers Day and so on, but I also go to visit her on the day, or at least phone her to wish her happy birthday if I can't get there in person, and to me that's far more important.

I don't send them to friends though, and friends don't send them to me. We do remember one another's birthdays, and usually send WhatsApp messages or FB congratulations instead. These still say that we've remembered one another, but are a lot less fraught than sending cards. People are generally much more busy than they used to be, and sending cards means remembering days in advance to buy one, get a stamp and post it in time. Even then, the odds on it getting there on the day are slight, whilst a message or text is instant, and the sender has a 24 hour window to get it there on time.

If someone chooses not to use WhatsApp or Facebook, or be able to get texts, that's not the fault of the senders either. Nowadays all of those things are easily available and have been for so long that most people have access to them.

pascal30 Wed 15-May-24 09:19:54

I wonder if you keep close contact with your friends and whether you discussed celebrating with them. When people live distantly from each other it is easy to lose contact.. It isn't clear whether the friend you reprimanded is the same one that sent the card and present. If so why not be more grateful that she remembered. Loneliness and illness seem to make people irritable so be careful not to lose your old friends. As someone said earlier this could be your year for making new friends... be pro-active you are still youngish

FindingNemo15 Wed 15-May-24 09:03:07

I think the nasty, hurtful comments are totally unnecessary. Maybe those posters have got family and friends and lead a wonderful life. Everyone is not in the same boat.

flappergirl Wed 15-May-24 08:47:51

Roobi, didn't you receive any cards at all as your post suggests or was it the late acknowledgement from your best friend that upset you most?

Maggiemaybe Wed 15-May-24 08:24:20

I’m always surprised by the regular threads on here with poster after poster saying they don’t send cards now because of the cost. Second class post is 85p and you can get five decent cards in Card Factory for a pound, so it doesn’t take much to brighten someone’s day.

Some thanks and wine for you, Roobi, and I’m sorry you had such a rotten birthday. I hope you’re feeling better today.

Cabbie21 Wed 15-May-24 08:17:49

Belated Happy Birthday!
I found my last birthday a bit hard as it was the first one without my husband to bring me a cup of tea, a card and present first thing, but later I did hear from my family. It must be tough having no family. None of my friends knows when my birthday is, so I have no expectations from them. Maybe next year you can arrange to go out after work, if that is what you would like?

Ziggy62 Wed 15-May-24 08:02:16

Happy birthday Roobi
It was my husband's 65th birthday at the weekend, my granddaughter was over from England visiting us . She left us a lovely thank you card and gift when she left but no birthday card (I'm not complaining, we so enjoyed her visit). I think maybe with the cost of postage cards are becoming a thing of the past. Seems birthday greetings are now posted on social media.
As a nearly 63 year old I do understand the feelings of not having friends/family living close by. It can be lonely, please continue to post here for friendship and support.
Buy yourself some flowers today, maybe go for a walk, go for coffee.

Sarnia Wed 15-May-24 08:01:26

After 18 months of being poorly you must have been at a low ebb and looking forward to your milestone birthday. For all but one of your friends to have forgotten has clearly upset you and I can understand that. Try not to dwell on it because you can't change what has happened. There are many reasons why people don't bother with birthday cards and gifts these days. I don't know much about your social life but you might be surprised at how much goes on in your community which might give you an interest and the opportunity to meet people. I go to several and they have helped me no end. flowers

keepcalmandcavachon Wed 15-May-24 07:59:45

Ah Roobi, that must have felt awful, especially if you wouldn't behave in that way yourself. The best thing would be to imagine that perhaps she 'had something she was worried/distracted by' and simply forgot the date , move on and forgive her. More importantly- try and do nice things for yourself, best outfit on, into town ,lunch out, or look into joining a new group/hobby for a bit of a boost. Resentments have a way of growing so it's best bin 'em off! flowers

dragonfly46 Wed 15-May-24 07:35:15

I too understand how you feel Roobi and I am sorry you feel so down. I too am shocked by the spiteful comments - totally unnecessary!

nightowl Wed 15-May-24 07:33:05

Well said Grammaretto

Do people actually want to be so unkind? What on earth do you get out of it? Why not just think your negative thoughts and move on, rather than kick someone when they’re down.

BlueBelle Wed 15-May-24 07:31:34

I m so sorry you had such a miserable birthday and can well understand how down you felt I would have too and I also think sending something late is not helpful either as the moment has gone maybe it wasn’t her fault in which case you would have expected a phone call on the day saying a present is in the post
however
You did say you had been unwell for 18 months so why did you then reprimand Welbeck and say you hadnt been under the weather at all ??
I think your loneliness and feelings of abandonment are really spoiling your later years and 60 is so blooming young
Get out there, make some new friends, do some stuff on your own talk to people, on the bus, in the shops, in queues I have made lovely friends just through vague conversations with strangers
Do stuff for yourself treat yourself to something a nice to do and try hard to increase your positivity in what about
I feel for you I really do but that’s not helpful so I encourage you to do more, love yourself a bit
Good luck

Katyj Wed 15-May-24 07:30:48

Roobi So sorry to hear you had a rubbish birthday, it does hurt. But it’s over now put it behind you and start a fresh.
Your only young get out and about as much as possible. Try and make new friends locally. Good luck flowers

Cossy Wed 15-May-24 07:30:08

Belated Birthday Greetings Roobi! Unlike many others I too would be a little upset, I think your reaction is quite understandable.

But, nothing can be done about it now and good to get your feelings out. Time to move on with all the positive things you do have in your life.

I truly hope the next few months are more enjoyable than the last few flowers

Grammaretto Wed 15-May-24 07:28:18

Very unkind comments from people who really should know better.

Why do you even bother to say such spiteful things!

Just because you aren't lonely lucky you or don't celebrate birthdays there are plenty who are and do.

I read that Roobi is reaching out for a little sympathy after a bloody awful special birthday passing unnoticed.