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Why are people so spiteful?

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Tenko Tue 24-Sept-24 08:27:40

How horrid . Unfortunately some people behave as if they’re still in the playground. I live in a village with several WhatsApp groups. One had another group formed which excluded one lady . I voiced my disapproval as did some others . It turned out one lady disliked the excluded lady .
What I find so spiteful in the ops post is that Susan has welcomed Jenny and husbands help and has still excluded her.
Well done op for calling out Susan . I would stay with the group but make it clear to Susan that it’s not on to exclude Jenny .

Imarocker Tue 24-Sept-24 08:23:42

This used to go on long before Whats App and social media. Years ago I was a member of a large group that met once a month for a lecture and every week for coffee. We always went to the group parties but I was well aware that we were not invited to one member’s Annual Boxing Day Party and to another’s NYE party.

nanna8 Tue 24-Sept-24 08:23:29

I’d either leave the group or invite Jenny to join - just oops, your name was accidentally left off!

Ziggy62 Tue 24-Sept-24 08:20:59

I remember some years ago, 2 mums organised a Christmas eve get together every year for members of local toddler group. One year they decided not to invite one of the mums and her 3 children, so I decided not to attend. One of the mums called to ask why I wasn't there, I replied "I'm popping along to have coffee with K, I wouldn't like to think of her being alone".
Apparently she came off the phone quite upset and rightly so, it was a cruel nasty thing not to invite one person
I would have to withdraw from the private group

V3ra Tue 24-Sept-24 08:12:52

Have all the rest of the group noticed that Jenny has not been included? I see you think some of them might be complicit.

I'd feel like reminding Susan about all the help Jenny, and her husband, give her. If she's still expecting all that then she's breathtakingly two-faced.

What a very unpleasant situation to be in.

keepingquiet Tue 24-Sept-24 08:08:11

Well done to you for calling this out. It is nasty and underhand behaviour. Some people just never move on from the playground.
Something similar happened to my daughter when some mums organised a meet-up and deliberately left some mums out. My daughter, to her credit, organised a separate one and invited everyone. It didn't go down well but she made a point.
Unfortunately it is human behaviour and some people just don't grow up.

MissAdventure Tue 24-Sept-24 08:07:39

I would definitely withdraw from that group.

I think wherever there are groups of people, this kind of behaviour is likely,in some form or another, but I would not want be associated with it at all.

eggplant Tue 24-Sept-24 08:05:35

Sadly , this sort of thing is going on all the time. The relative anonymity of the dreaded WhatsApp group gives people the chance to play out their petty power games. Its very easy to tip into negative thinking and harder ( I find) to develop the resilience needed to withstand this stuff. Could you simply not respond to any messages?

Bad enough that it goes on in the work place, but craft and helping others is supposed to be fun!

Greenfinch Tue 24-Sept-24 08:04:50

Yes I would have to leave if it were me. These underhand antics are toxic.

Marydoll Tue 24-Sept-24 08:02:35

How truly awful. I would not want to be part of a group like that. Spiteful and huertful. Bullying, just like the school playground.

It happened to me a long time ago, when colleagues excluded me from the get togethers, I used to have with them.
A member of staff, who was angry that I had got a promotion over her, started spreading lies about me. Unfortunately, some of my friends believed them.
It really hurt.

Grandmabatty Tue 24-Sept-24 08:01:25

I would withdraw from the group. Do you really want to be associated with toxic people like that?

M0nica Tue 24-Sept-24 07:58:55

Becasue that is how some people are. nature? nurture? life experience? No idea. They just are.

Astitchintime Tue 24-Sept-24 07:56:49

Not sure if this is I the correct forum but here goes.

I am part of a crafting group, we all live quite locally and we got together to help and support local charities - this has not only helped those charities but also, in some cases, our own mental health too.

Everything has been 'ticking along' nicely, or so I thought. We had a social media group chat for sharing ideas and planning projects to raise money and we were all part of that.

Just yesterday I bumped into one of our members who is the admin for the group page. I will refer to her as Susan (not her real name). We chatted for a few minutes and then Susan announced that she was creating a fresh group message page and I was to look out for it later in the day but to not mention it to any one else. Wanting to get the shopping done and get out of the rain I just said 'Ok, I will take a look this afternoon'. We went our separate ways and I thought nothing of it until last evening.

On opening the new group forum I found that one of the members was not included, I will call her Jenny (again, not her real name). Jenny is a really lovely person, lives close to me with her OH and they would both do anything to help anyone and do a great deal to help Susan who lives alone - they give her lifts when her car is off the road, take her bins in, help with heavy gardening jobs, done her shopping when she's unwell etc. I also believe they have lent Susan money.

I phoned Susan as I though it was an oversight and perhaps she had forgotten to add Jenny but she claimed that she had not forgotten her, she simply didn't want her in the new group which she had created exclusively for planning lunches, day trips, visits to exhibitions, coffee & chat meet-ups etc.

I could see that others in the group were 'chatting' online and creating car-share rotas and setting a timetable for events well into the new year. They had even added my name to the rota without my specific agreement.

This does not sit right with me and I am now in the dreadful position of knowing that one of our group is being singled out and excluded. I know Jenny very well and I also know how much it would hurt her to know about the second group and the way Susan, and I suspect some others, have spitefully engineered all this.

I am beginning to feel like I no longer want to be part of the group but if I do I'll lose contact with the wider community. The toxic element that is emerging is tainting everything.

Why are people so spiteful?