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Declining mind or mental health? what sort of age?

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mrsnonsmoker Sun 24-Nov-24 16:34:45

I'm 62 and already struggling with memory, driving and planning due to stress I reckon (recent divorce).

I notice my friends in their late 60s early 70s seem to be going through some sort of mental decline. Is that what I have coming? I woudn't be so concerned if it was just one or two but seems to be most I know of those over 65.

madeleine45 Mon 25-Nov-24 21:24:02

Try to accept that the divorce situation which lasts for quite a long time sorting things out causes major stress and that you are reacting quite normally. Dont worry about your memory problems or try not to , just see it as part of the situation at the moment. Write yourself notes, try and follow a simple pattern of jobs . Dont make any major decisions about moving or buying anything big and just try to coast along for a few months. When the stress gets less I think you will find yourself able to get back to more of your usual sense. Good luck

arum Mon 25-Nov-24 22:38:31

mabon1

Dementia can start very young much younger than 65. Go see your GP to ask for a memory test. Probably your problems are due to stress, but best check.

I work in a home for seniors. We have 3 residents who are just 60 and fully dement.

henetha Mon 25-Nov-24 23:22:23

I don't think we can generalise about this. People vary hugely.
At 87 I'm still looking after myself in every way, still mentally alert, still out and about , still coping reasonably well.
I get bouts of depression, but always have from time to time.

albertina Tue 26-Nov-24 09:53:08

There's a lot of excellent advice here.

Stress does awful things to your mind. Divorce is right up there on the stress scale. I know.

This it the time to treat yourself very kindly and gently. Take your time over everything you do. All the very best for a happy future.

CariadAgain Tue 26-Nov-24 10:05:42

Another practical point - ie having one's house organised to function as practically as possible. I know some people like a lot of keepsakes/ornaments/etc around and I guess I'm fortunate I am in the "time and motion conscious/plain tastes" camp. So - and it's taken time - I've been (still am) going through my house bit by bit to get it to function well. Yep...I've not got one single ornament/picture/etc in my house - which I know wouldnt be many peoples ways.

One of the biggest jobs I did organising my house was adding a mini-conservatory cum porch onto my house. In Wales I've found it's vital to have "somewhere" - so that myself and visitors can leave muddy footwear/wet clothing etc outside the house itself. Coming from a city and living in a small town now = I receive lots of goods by post since moving here and so it also functions as a place where deliveries can be left for me (I finally got the message over to deliverers that there isn't a "housewife" available in my house to be in for their deliveries - as I'm the only one that lives here and I won't wait in for them). So yep...mainly a big notice on the door of the conservatory left there for some weeks - until they'd all realised just to leave them and where. Also a useful place for starting off new plants I'm growing/leaving stuff for recycling bag/leaving stuff for taking to a charity shop.

So - yep....generally getting the house as organised as one's tastes will allow for.....and it's less stress to live in it.

Kimski44 Tue 26-Nov-24 10:41:22

Yes, I agree with the others re the stress. But don’t underestimate, when you get older, the perils of living alone and the potential stress that can cause, along with failing eyesight or hearing (eg don’t turn down glasses or hearing aids if they’re recommended). The thyroid gland is also potentially a failure point - if you start to feel excessively tired, maybe gain weight too, it’s worth getting your thyroid checked out for hypothyroidism.
My mother suddenly developed psychosis (very very late onset schizophrenia) at 94, with no previous history, which has resulted in her being sectioned twice (there are specific wards in MH hospitals for elderly people but it’s still not nice for them). Rather terrifyingly, apparently, this is on the increase especially with elderly women and you can have this WITHOUT any signs of dementia………. there’s a potential link with falling oestrogens but probably it’s more likely to be brain-related deterioration that doesn’t cause the more common dementia or Alzheimer’s.
My mother is now home, finally agreeing to take medication (they don’t believe there’s anything wrong with them) and I have moved her near me.
Take care when living by yourself to ensure you have enough social activities and other things you enjoy doing preferably with other people.

mrsnonsmoker Fri 29-Nov-24 09:46:20

There's some fabulous advice here. It's 3 friends in particular that are older than me (I only have half a dozen close-ish friends anyway) that I've noticed this in so it's a generalisation amongst my very small pool!

I definitely had underestimated the stress, but only because everyone around me seems to think divorce is not a big deal, something I wanted so therefore I need to crack on with it etc. I think the best thing I've taken from this thread is that my general wellbeing could get better as my situation improves. At the moment I'm in a temporary flat with disabled DD so it is very stressful indeed! I was worried this was a permanent decline.

I can definitely see myself in many of the situations people have described here, too many to quote individually, so thank you for sharing.

tyer2323 Fri 29-Nov-24 09:56:50

Great advice! Relaxation techniques like mindfulness, meditation, and yoga can do wonders for clearing the mind and reducing stress. Taking time for self-care can really help regain clarity and calm.

Witzend Fri 29-Nov-24 10:07:15

Fleurpepper

She probably had a few minor strokes, rather than dementia Cateq. Good you were able to visit her, and that she didn't have to live for many years, deteriorating and losing dignity and joy.

‘Mini’ strokes can be symptoms of the start of vascular dementia. In the case of my FiL, they certainly were. IIRC they’re called ischaemic attacks. His speech would be very garbled for a few days, but he’d recover - until the next.

kittylester Fri 29-Nov-24 10:17:45

There is a useful acronym to consider with regard to a fall off of mental ability. Usually used for people living with dementia but fairly transferable.

P - is the person in pain
I - do they have an infectio
N - how is their nutrition
C - are they constipated
H - how is hydration
M - is there any medication having an adverse effect
E - is their current environment causing stress.

CariadAgain Fri 29-Nov-24 10:40:43

Glad you're starting to "see the wood from the trees". Cue for the stress obviously hasn't finished yet - as you're still waiting to solve the accommodation situation too. "This too will pass" is a useful phrase to remind oneself of.

Another thing I've been reminded of is if a "peripheral" person is causing stress = let them go. I was reminded of this by a 3rd letdown from someone (an alternative therapist in an area of the country where unreliability is accepted more than I'm used to it being....) and I just thought "2nd chances for her finish here and I'm not going to give her a chance to do this to me again. Make it short and sweet - but cut her off (politely)" and did just that.

So - if some peripheral person in your life is making a habit of treating you badly (eg unpunctual or something) = make it short and sweet, but let them go, rather than trying to change them to normal behaviour. Some people are not badly-intentioned - but they're just flakey or self-centred or something.

Smudgie Fri 29-Nov-24 14:37:58

Very good advice on here, particularly the effect of stress on cognition. I am 80 and want to keep my faculties as long as possible, I don't believe in taking medication unless I have to and I realise I am lucky in that I only take thyroxine. After some research I have decided to
start taking Vitamin B12, a really important requirement for keeping our brain functioning and helping to prevent cognitive decline. Have you had a blood test to check your levels, if not it might be worth asking the GP?