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tanith Sun 02-Feb-25 07:41:04

Finally I’m starting on moving house just wonder if anyone else is doing the the same and want to share the journey with me? I’m in mid 70s and it’s tough making every scary decision alone.
I’ve struggled for months with this decision but now I need to get on with it. Join me for support.

M0nica Tue 18-Feb-25 11:55:56

We thought our house would sell well and quickly. In the past we have always sold our houses within a week of putting them on the market, but we cannot buck the system at a period when the property market in our area is in the doldrums and we are selling quite an expensive house.

This last fornight, with the improved market, we have had 4 second viewings, all of hom want to bu the house, but 3 still have not sold their own houses. We await the second viewing on Thursday of the one that can proceed immediately. The potential buyers are bringing the children, aged 8 and 10 with them. They will love all the beams, low doors and high ceilings and the steep staircase, not to mention, the huge garden and will be very upset if their parents do not buy it.

Cabowich Tue 18-Feb-25 12:33:49

I believe the offer from people who don't have an offer on their property is called 'an expression of interest'. It has no legal bearing at all, and you don't have to stop other people viewing your property; nor does it stop you accepting anyone else's offer. You all just keep your fingers crossed that the potential buyer gets an offer themselves - soon.

Despite some moaning from me at the beginning of this thread, we have now exchanged contracts and are moving this Friday. It's taken a while (house for sale almost a year, one offer falling through, second offer taking six months to complete due to a fairly long chain).

I have had (and still have) doubts about the bungalow we are moving too. But DH wanted to go through with it. So here we are - I'll just have to hope I grow to love it there.

But at least we've managed to downsize - the house we're in is too much to manage and keep on top of - both physically and financially.

Good luck to all those in the process. I would say that, compared to house moves in the past, this has been the most stressful and prolonged.

madeleine45 Tue 18-Feb-25 12:42:30

to winterwhite,

Definitely stick to your guns and stay put. If your life suits you both as it is , dont let them take that away from you whilst you are still able to enjoy it. Yes you are perfectly aware that one day there will be a situation where you may have to move for whatever reason , but why give up good now for possibly ok later? To me that sounds a lot like them thinking what suits them rather than what suits you and they are just looking to the future and thinking how it may affect them.
Well if they visit you every week and are very involved in your life it may be worth considering their views, but I bet my bottom dollar that this is not the case. I have done 10 years 3 days a week of hospital car volunteer. I have met many many people in couples or alone, who like all of us, find the way to live that suits them and cope with the problems that arise as best they can. But the important thing is that they do their own choosing and make their own decisions. We may become infirm but we are not children to be ordered and told what to do with our lives.

But at the same time we need to be practical and work out how to keep going on our own. So I do suggest that you could do a check up of things yourselves, before the children come and use them to persuade you to leave. Think of it as a game of chess and you are working out how to do Checkmate, to all their plans!!
So firstly , just look around your house and start with basics. So check up on carpets or rugs that you might trip over etc. In the bathroom it is quite easy to get a couple of grab rails put in, or maybe you have a shower? So I now have a seat in my shower. When my back is bad I use that but can put the seat up out of the way when it is not needed. So that sort of thing. Do you have steps up to the house etc. Anyway you know your own place and what you enjoy.

So if you love your garden , you might start to find either someone who can give you a regular basic time to cut grass and weed etc. thats worth while as the first line of attack they tend to use is , "oh the garden is getting too much for you "Another thing I organised with someone some years ago. She was a widow, her husband was the keen gardener, and she didnt want to leave but found the garden too much for her. I knew a family who at that time were living in a flat. He was a keen gardener and missed it, and it ended up where he did the garden in return for being able to grow some veg and help himself to veg and some flowers. It worked out very well and the family also became friends with the lady. I know that does not always work out but it might be something that might be useful.

Do you know someone who enjoys driving and still has a car? After I finished doing hospital car, I have done several trips on a no profit basis. So I have been happy to take 2 or 3 people to the coast. We just share the fuel costs. They enjoy being picked up at their door and when we get to the coast they do as they please and we make a time to meet up to go home. If the weather turns awful we ring each other up and see if we want to go home early. So the more different little things you can fix up now, the more answers you have to pronounce Checkmate on the next onslaught of why dont you come to live near us etc. you have a life where you are and friends and local knowledge to direct you whenever you need to do something. Friends are so important and I dont think people always realize how much it matters that they remember so many things about your life from years ago and they see you as that funny or well organised person or whatever and grey hair doesnt alter that .

I have moved ,rather sadly ,from my old home, but it was MY decision, as I could see what I might need in the future, and so I took time checking out what mattered to me and chose my own ground floor flat. It is still in the same area as my last house and I am very independant. and plan to be so until the last breath!! Remind your children that somehow you have managed to work out the way to live to the age you are now and as you have so many years of experience compared to them you will continue relying on your own common sense! Did you ever watch that series where Stephanie Cole played a woman in a rest home because she was physically not so good but was very feisty and had been a war correspondant and would not let anyone talk down to her? Well she must have been getting her ideas from me!! Keep on going folks and enjoy life while you can. Well tonight I am off to play board games in a local pub, and tomorrow play whist with a very keen group, no holds barred at a village hall , and I need to get going now as have some new songs to practise before I go out later on. Enjoy your home and good luck .

Barleyfields Tue 18-Feb-25 12:43:37

I think an EA is duty bound to put forward all offers received, but if the would-be buyer hasn’t got an offer on their own property a sensible seller would keep their house on the market until there is a verifiable complete chain below a prospective buyer or a genuine cash buyer comes along. The EA is answerable to the seller and it’s not for him to decide whether or not to put an offer forward. He should however give sound advice about whether or not to accept an offer.

Norah Tue 18-Feb-25 13:02:01

Barleyfields

I think an EA is duty bound to put forward all offers received, but if the would-be buyer hasn’t got an offer on their own property a sensible seller would keep their house on the market until there is a verifiable complete chain below a prospective buyer or a genuine cash buyer comes along. The EA is answerable to the seller and it’s not for him to decide whether or not to put an offer forward. He should however give sound advice about whether or not to accept an offer.

This.

Norah Tue 18-Feb-25 13:11:55

We've a grandchild looking to purchase.

She's not necessarily looking in the appropriate price range, but she expects, rightly so, for her offers to be put forward.

We'll keep it here, her offers are ridiculous. However, she may be lucky one day. People have many reasons to change prices - one doesn't know if the offer isn't put forward what the vendor will accept. Let the negotiation begin.

M0nica Tue 18-Feb-25 17:54:07

Yes. Estate Agents have a legal obligation to pass all offers on to the seller, right up until contracts are exchanged. They are also bound to pass them on quickly.

^By law, you must tell sellers as soon as is reasonably possible
about all offers that you receive at any time until contracts
have been exchanged unless the offer is an amount or type
which the seller has specifically instructed you, in writing, not
to pass on. You must confirm each offer in writing to the seller,
and to the buyer who made it, within 2 working days.^
www.tradingstandards.uk/media/documents/commercial/codes-of-practice/tpo-sales.pdf

FishandChips15 Tue 18-Feb-25 18:51:22

I recently had an offer on my property which was £25,000 less and they were not even under offer themselves.

Various other situations arose so I came of the market.

When I decide to go back on the market with another EA should this same person show an interest where do I stand with regard to the previous EA as they were the ones who introduced them?

nanny2507 Tue 18-Feb-25 18:59:10

fishandchips I believe the original EA get the commission. I'm not 100% sure though

M0nica Tue 18-Feb-25 19:41:20

It depends how the person was put in touch with you.

If you were with Estate Agent A and they introduced buyer B, but nothing came of it, and, after you had moved to Estate Agent B, Buyer B approached you again, NOT going through Estate Agent B, I think the first agent gets the fee.

If However, Buyer B approached Estate Agent B and they arranged the viewing etc, then they would get the fee.

When we changed agents, we told them that there was a possibility that someone EAA had introduced might come back. We just assumed that our various EAs would know what to do. However that potential buyer never returned.

We currently have 3 people who have viewed our house twice and have expressed serious interest in making an offer, all three have houses on the market, but not yet under offer. We have said that we will not make any promises on any ffer until one of them is in a psition to proceed.

We have another second viewing on Thursday, accompanied by small children. This person is proceedable, with no house to sell and if they then make an offer we will accept it. We are working on the basis that he knows that there are three other people wanting the house and one of them could go under offer any day and be proceedable, so he is not going to come in with a silly offer.

FishandChips15 Tue 18-Feb-25 22:47:47

Thanks Monica. I am dreading going back on the market, but it has to be done.

M0nica Wed 19-Feb-25 21:10:08

I do not dread being on the market, but I find it quite a chore. By preference I show viewers round on their first visit and the Estate Agent (EA) is happy with that as, though I say it myself, I do it quite well.

It means you have to keep tidying up because someone is coming round. Are all the floors clean? The loo seats all down? It eats into your time and your social life has to be organised around the viewings.

Currently we are getting second viewings, which are often done by the agent, so people can discuss freely all the changes they want to make. But that means doing things like opening up lofts and boiler cupboards, and then going out for an hour or so.

tanith Wed 19-Feb-25 22:17:47

Well I had first viewing today the agent came to do the viewing as I was going out, I gave him keys as he has more booked for Saturday. He rang with an update to tell me that they’d made an offer 60k under the asking price. It seems he’s just exchanged on a house nearby so I think a developer he said the garden was a bit small, it’s 65’ long and 25’ wide so I don’t agree. Anyway within 10mins of my rejecting that offer he upped it by 10k and the agent said he really wants the house.
I thought tough he can offer the asking price as I’m in no hurry. Hey ho! more viewings on Saturday.

Grammaretto Wed 19-Feb-25 22:23:33

That must have felt quite promising tanith despite the cheeky offer.
First viewer making an offer is a great start!

Sago Wed 19-Feb-25 22:32:53

FishandChips15

I recently had an offer on my property which was £25,000 less and they were not even under offer themselves.

Various other situations arose so I came of the market.

When I decide to go back on the market with another EA should this same person show an interest where do I stand with regard to the previous EA as they were the ones who introduced them?

It will be in your contract with the original EA.

M0nica Thu 20-Feb-25 09:42:49

Well, we had our first offer from someone who has not yet sold their house yesterday, we just said we weren't considering any offers, unless the person concerned was procedable.

However we are getting a secocnd viewing today from someone who is procedable, and at least this non proceedable offer can be used in the negotiations to make sure further offers do not fall too far.

tanith Thu 20-Feb-25 09:45:49

Fingers crossed for you MOnica

M0nica Thu 20-Feb-25 10:52:38

Thank you. Unfortunately too late for us to get the house we had our eye on for over a year, but yu win some you lose some.

Grammaretto Thu 20-Feb-25 23:01:09

Best of luck M0nica
Strange day for me.
My potential buyer came round with some friends who enthused about the house and went all over it. I hadn't been expecting them but at least my bed was made!
He wants a definite price so I called a surveyor and was shocked by the cost. How much is a home report usually? The surveyor either does a home report or a valuation. Both cost money but the valuation is ⅓of the cost of a survey.

Allira Thu 20-Feb-25 23:15:10

Well, that was new to me that the vendor has to pay for this home report survey, Grammaretto. I thought the prospective purchaser would have to pay for a survey to be done but perhaps that shows how long since we sold or bought a house.
The definite price is the offer you are prepared to accept, surely?

Grammaretto Thu 20-Feb-25 23:46:42

I know, I think that too Allira and I won't get a home report but because it's a private sale, I want to know what to ask.
I don't want to sell it too cheap nor to be greedy. It is a unique house, 200 years old.

Sago Fri 21-Feb-25 06:43:01

Grammaretto

I know, I think that too Allira and I won't get a home report but because it's a private sale, I want to know what to ask.
I don't want to sell it too cheap nor to be greedy. It is a unique house, 200 years old.

Be very careful and take advice from your solicitor.

It is up to your purchaser to have any surveys done.

I sold once privately, the purchaser pulled all kinds of tricks, she even asked me for 3K cash before we exchanged contracts, she wanted a reduction on the purchase but would still borrow the full amount!
I told her a firm NO and reiterated that as a solicitor herself she could be disbarred for pulling such a stunt.
She threatened to pull out but I stuck to my guns, the sale proceeded eventually.

Calendargirl Fri 21-Feb-25 07:16:40

MOnica

Just reading through this thread for the first time.

Earlier you mention that your DD will also be moving and you will actually end up living close to each other, but that is not really your intention, as you don’t expect her to look after you in time to come.

Looking at it from another angle, it may be that your DD herself actually wants to be nearer to you and your DH, not for caring purposes, but just because she would like her parents to be ‘around’.

Hope you get your house sold, and find one you really like.

🤞

(This applies to all on this thread).

Grammaretto Fri 21-Feb-25 09:24:51

Allira I hope my private buyer isn't going to play any tricks! I have known him as a friend for at least 20 years but he has to raise funds as he wants to change the use from domestic to business and has a team behind him so there is a possibility that someone will make difficulties further down the line.

You are right about keeping my solicitor handy!

Grammaretto Fri 21-Feb-25 09:25:40

Sorry that was meant for Sago and Allira