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Grandmadinosaur Tue 02-Mar-21 09:40:51

I lost my mum a couple of weeks ago. Sad as it is it was a relief as she had been ill for a few years - latterly with dementia. My parents live an hour and a half’s drive away and hadn’t seen them for a year due to a COVID. My DH and I did visit my dad the day after she passed and the funeral is in a couple of weeks. My dad has asked me if I want to go and see her in the Chapel of rest. This is my dilemma. It’s a case of what I shall see. I know the last year took a toll on her physically and would like to remember her how she was. Also should we go under the present rules as we shall be going anyway for the funeral? I feel like we should go as support to my dad who is putting no pressure on me. He is the most easy going person I know so there’s no feelings of guilt. Or is there from me? I don’t know what to do?

cc Thu 04-Mar-21 12:56:06

I would not go, though since I was with both my parents when they died I was not in your position. You know exactly who she was and what she looked like, just keep her like that in your memory.
I think that often people who are no longer alive do not look like themselves, they look somehow "empty".

SueLindsey Thu 04-Mar-21 12:56:23

My father told me to see my mother at the funeral home and then got me to kiss her face. I hated it, hadn't realised how frozen the body would be. Whenever I think of her I get an image in my brain of her there. It was a relief in a way that my dad died during the first lockdown as I knew I wouldn't have to see him. I think if there is any doubt in your mind then don't. Your mum would want you to remember he as she was alive.

PamSJ1 Thu 04-Mar-21 13:07:50

It sounds strange but when my dad's mum died 22 years ago he didn't feel able to go and see her. Instead the undertakers agreed to take some photos of her in her coffin in case he later felt that he should gave gone. My dad is now in a care home and going through his things with my mum we found these photos. It was quite strange to find them. I am not sure whether he did ever look at them. I remember him getting the photos developed and having to warn them in the shop about the content of the film

TrendyNannie6 Thu 04-Mar-21 13:35:33

I was with my mum and few years later my dad when he passed, and yes I saw both in the chapel of rest, it’s a personal choice, for me I’m glad I did, I went twice to see them both, I know that if I hadn’t of done I would have regretted it years later

Jellybean345 Thu 04-Mar-21 13:41:32

So sorry to hear about your loss. My Mum passed away at home last year she was found on a garden chair by her carer .Sadly she d been asleep for a quite while before when I arrived there after the phone call, she looked so peaceful with a newspaper on her knee .I gave her a hug but she’d left this world I felt as though I d already said goodbye a couple of days before when she was smiling chatty and laughing .
My sister who has had much support from my Mum when she was a child had nt seen Mum for many months due to Covid restrictions .She wanted to see Mum at the chapel of rest I felt because of her vulnerabilities that I should go and support her although I was nt sure .We both arrived at the chapel of rest and my sister sat next to Mum for a long time and chatted to her .I stayed outside but in the end I decided just to go in briefly to make sure my sister was alright .I looked at Mum again and wish I hadn’t she was nt my Mum .I ve never forgotten it .
My sister coped with it all but I’d said my goodbyes a week before.
My advice is don’t unless you really feel you must ,follow that feeling that my sister did .

halfpint1 Thu 04-Mar-21 13:50:02

I held my Mum's hand as she took her last breath , it was a
privilege to be there with her, very special. Its not how I
remember her now though.
When my sister came I didn't go with her to see my Mum
as I felt she needed the privacy. She said afterwards she
was so glad of that time alone and Mum had looked beautifull.

sharon103 Thu 04-Mar-21 13:58:47

Please accept my deepest sympathy.
I didn't go to see my mum who died with dementia at 94. Neither did I see my dad who died of a heart attack on his way home after visiting me.
I wanted to remember them as they were. I believe their spirit has left and gone to a better place and all that's left is the shell.
My mum always went to see our deceased family at the Chapel at Rest. She regretted seeing her best friend, she looked awful she said.
My brother saw my dad but said he he didn't look our dad.
Do what you you feel happiest with. flowers

Treacletoffee Thu 04-Mar-21 14:14:46

I saw my Father in Law after he had died in hospital. We had been taking it in turns to sit with him while he was ill. The staff left him in exactly the position he had died in when they called us back when he died. It was horrific. Later in the chapel his eyes were open and the staff were laughing as they walked us down- this is a few years ago.We should have complained.
My lovely Mom died at home two weeks ago. I had taken a pic of her to show my children that she was tucked up in bed. She died the next day and looked just the same. I felt no need to visit her in the chapel - apart from dropping off her favourite twin set and some photos and mementoes from family for the coffin. I chose photos from when she was at her best for the order of service. You should not feel bad for not going to the chapel - all that made your Mom your Mom has gone and those are the bits she doesn’t need now. Just support your Dad - it’s after the funeral that’s the worst flowers

grandtanteJE65 Thu 04-Mar-21 14:27:05

I am sorry for your loss.

I am sure your dad will understand if you say, you would rather remember your mother living than see her in her coffin.

I saw both my parents, after they were laid out but before the undertaker came with the coffin.

I was really glad I saw my mother - she had been very puffy in her face latterly due medicine, but that had gone and she looked much more like herself. My father looked so peaceful that it was consoling.

But, please do whatever you feel most comfortable with.

I have no idea what the restrictions in your area are about this or funerals, so perhaps you should check that.

Whiff Thu 04-Mar-21 14:57:09

My advice is don't. I don't know if you have seen a dead body before or even watching some die until their last breathe. But it's not some thing you ever forget. It is harrowing. I saw both my parents after they died and watched my husband die.

You do not want those memories. Remember your mom as she was. When she was your mom. You say she had dementia my mom did and she lived with me. My mom died long before her body did. I grieved for my mom while she was alive.

It will break your heart even more seeing her body. What was your mom has gone. Your mom lives on in your heart and mind. Look at photos of your mom and remember happy funny times. We all have mom stories remember those and talk about her and to her. I promise it will help. Seeing her body won't.

If you haven't seen a dead body before it's not like on TV . The funeral company can do things to make her look ok. But you say you haven't seen her for a year. She will not be as you remember.

If you do decide to see her body remember you can never forget it. Once seen that's it no going back.

Willow10 Thu 04-Mar-21 15:17:16

Something no-one else has mentioned and I wonder if it was just me? My dad died suddenly in hospital in front of the family and the look of pain on his face haunts me still. I accompanied my mum to see dad in the chapel of rest. He looked very peaceful, which was a great comfort. But the overwhelming smell of what I assume was formaldehyde stayed in my nostrils for days afterwards and even now makes me feel nauseous thinking about it. That was the lasting memory and for that reason I couldn't visit mum when she died three years ago. I've never regretted it, I just remember her how she was - well and happy - the last time I saw her. My condolences to you.

sunnybean60 Thu 04-Mar-21 15:33:48

My darling Dad died about 18 months ago and I and my sister sat holding his hand as he drifted away. We kissed him, hugged him for the last time his body still warm. We prayed and then called for the medical team to do what they needed to do before we left him for the last time at the hospital. I'm crying as I am writing this because he had the best ending and that was the very last time we saw him and we choose that to be our last memory of him too looking at his very beautiful peaceful face. Memories of happy times are with me too. Many a time I have chosen not to at the chapel of rest days or some time later because of being fearful I would always remember them that way. Thank you for reading.

FarawayGran Thu 04-Mar-21 16:02:58

I am so sorry for your loss. Losing my mother was like nothing I could imagine, it's best if you want to remember her as she was. When my favourite aunt died, my Mum said don't go to see her. She was adamant that I should not. So reluctantly I agreed. It was only when a friend died, and another friend wanted me to go and see the body that I realised what my mum had meant. I didn't see my Mum after she had passed. Cherish your memories as she was.

icanhandthemback Thu 04-Mar-21 16:16:37

I am so sorry for your loss and all that stems from it. For me, life is for the living and I am not comfortable with dead bodies. I can do everything that needs to be done, no matter how horrid, to ensure a living being gets the best care but the moment they are no longer with us, I hand over to my sister. She is terribly squeamish with all the stuff that needs doing before death but appears to enjoy preparing the body for the funeral. It works well for us.

Qwerty Thu 04-Mar-21 16:20:16

I wouldn't go. I went to see my Mum not by choice but because my eldest daughter wanted to so she could put a teddy in the coffin "for company", and to say goodbye. So I went to support her. It didn't help me as she didn't look like the person I knew; it was upsetting. My daughter however found it comforting. Her two siblings chose not to go.

Dianehillbilly1957 Thu 04-Mar-21 16:31:20

I lost my lovely mother almost 2 years ago, my sister and I were asked if we wanted to see her, we declined as we wanted our memories of her how she was and not in illness, I felt that her soul had departed and it was a shell that was left. My brother went and said she was all made up and very young looking! We did ask that she would be made up for her funeral as she didn't go anywhere without her ' face on'!

Jillybird Thu 04-Mar-21 17:01:22

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Patsy429 Thu 04-Mar-21 17:23:47

I'm so sorry. It's such a personal thing as to whether you see your mother at the undertakers and some people do find comfort from it.
I saw my mum in her coffin and that is the last memory I have of her and I wish that it wasn't. I swore then that I would never go to see anyone else who had passed away. I would prefer to remember them always as they had been.

Unigran4 Thu 04-Mar-21 18:48:06

I went to see my Dad and have always regretted it. His face was set in a way that I only ever saw when he was cross with me. And you can never "un-see" it.

I didn't go to see my Mum. As the undertaker said: "She had been very ill, and we can't improve her".

Don't go and don't feel guilty. My love and prayers go out to you.

Youngatheart51 Thu 04-Mar-21 18:58:58

My real dad died 2 years ago after having dementia for a few years. I hadn't seen him since he'd gone into the care home due to the distance (I live in Somerset & he lived in Norfolk) & I had health problems. My younger half sister who lived close by & was with him to the end advised me & my other sister not to visit him at the funeral home as he looked nothing like the dad we remembered (he'd lost a ton of weight) My sister & niece did visit as wanted to put things in his coffin & regretted it, haunted my sister for quite a while. My dh went in my place to put my bits in the coffin as I couldn't face it & when he came out dh said I'd made the right choice & I remember him from dd's wedding, healthy & happy surrounded by his 3 daughters. (Actually had that pic framed for my sisters)
When my darling sd died in December from Covid related pneumonia I was desperate to see him but because of the circumstances (covid) he has to have a closed coffin so none of us was allowed to visit him ?

Lizbethann55 Thu 04-Mar-21 19:25:22

It is such a very personal thing to do that only you can decide. My mum died just after Christmas five years ago. Even though she was in her 90s her death was sudden and unexpected. I had only seen her earlier that day so there was no great physical deterioration to shock me. I had never seen a dead person before and didn't know what to expect. But I had chosen the clothes she was put in. I was very apprehensive the first time I went to see her. But I am so glad I did. I sat and held her hand and chatted away, telling her off for dying and "discussing" the funeral plans with her. I went to see her several times as she was only minutes away. My AC went to see her as well , as did my elder brother. The last time I saw her , I placed a copy of the funeral service in with her. I felt incredibly sad that last time as I knew I would never see her again.

Urmstongran Thu 04-Mar-21 19:45:32

My sister and I were with our mum when she died. We had kept vigil through the night between us in a side ward at the hospital. It was a privilege to be able to stroke her head and murmur our love for her. She looked peaceful and slipped away without distress, just a little pulsed oxygen and a slight tranquilliser to assist her passing. I think pneumonia is known as the old people’s friend.

We had discussed dying a few months earlier, when she was well. We were sharing a bottle of wine as you do.

She made me promise that no-one was to view her once she had gone. ‘And make sure the lid is screwed down tight!’.

Did as you asked dear lady. x

Growing0ldDisgracefully Thu 04-Mar-21 20:15:03

My sincere condolences on your loss. As said many times in response to your original posting, everyone sees the choice differently. My 2 sisters and I were with my Mum as she left us. My sisters did not want to visit her in the Chapel of Rest, I did and spent a while chatting as I would have anyway, about the bulbs coming up in the garden, that we'd been looking after the house for her, etc. No, Mum did not look as she had always done, her illness from dementia and the gap between her passing and the funeral had left their mark, but I also have a lifetime of happier and earlier memories so this is not the lasting memory I have of her. Whatever you decide, it will not be wrong, and I'm sure your Mum would support your decision, if you had been able to ask her. Maybe this is a lesson to us, to talk with our families about our final wishes, including the decision about any final 'meeting', where any choice is possible. In sympathy.

PamelaJ1 Thu 04-Mar-21 20:18:25

My dad died very suddenly when I was visiting my DD in Australia.
We came home and arrived the day before the funeral. Drove home to Norfolk , had a few hours sleep then set off for Lancashire.
I went to see him the next morning just before the funeral. I said goodbye and made sure he was dead. That sounds very odd but I needed to know he wasn't ‘there’ any more.
I have never regretted it but I wouldn’t be able to advise anyone else either way.

Nanniejude Thu 04-Mar-21 20:23:20

It’s a very personal decision only you know the answer to. I didn’t get to see if my dad when he died and I’m grateful I only have a happy memory of him.
Perhaps accompany your dad to support him but wait outside.
So sorry for your loss, hold on to your happy memories.