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DGD hates reading

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CorneliaStreet Wed 13-May-20 07:32:00

This may be a wrong topic to post in, but I'd really appreciate your advice on how did you personally understand that you enjoy reading? What book was the one that took you away? How do I explain to my DGD (10) that reading is not about stumbling through the letters? She just enjoys the movies and she will never open the book even if she likes the movie based on it.

absthame Wed 13-May-20 11:00:04

For many of us who are Dyslexic, reading can be a very painful experience, trying to make sense of letters and words that literally disappear an appear from anywhere and for some from everywhere.

If that is her problem then all that is said to her about the joys of reading are a complete nonsense, they are only relevant if the child needs motivating and nothing else.

I came to accept the necessity of battling with dyslexia to unlock the the treasures contained in books when much older, although I did what I had to, in education, but they were very punishing times and offered nothing but abuse, from most of those teachers and adults. It is not a pleasant experience to be humiliated in front of one's peers and told constantly that your lazy, not taking care, stupid etc. AND it is happening today to thousands of kids and adults.

So those of you who do not have to deal with the issue for yourselves and find it frustrating when one of yours takes many times too long to complete their homework or finds a thousand and one excuses to avoid the tasks to be done, remember they are suffering to satisfy your demands. Remember the first symptom of a Dyslexic is avoidance.

Patticake123 Wed 13-May-20 10:57:34

Do not despair, my son was like this too and now, as an adult he loves reading as much as the rest of the family. One thing that worked for him was computer magazines. He would read those and his school said as long as he was reading something he’d be alright. Is your GD interested in a specific subject? Horses, clothes, dancing etc. If so, try and get a magazine subscription for her and this may trigger her interest in the written word.

Jinty44 Wed 13-May-20 10:53:02

* CorneliaStreet*, what about graphic novels? Or comic books?

silverdragon Wed 13-May-20 10:48:45

Does she have anything she's interested in? Tennis? Football? Cooking? Countries? Knitting? Crafts? Drawing? Pets? Anything, doesn't matter what, you are very likely to find books on that subject. Not for her to sit & read from cover to cover, but to have it there for her to dip into. Next time she asks a question about something, even if you know the answer, go with her to look it up, make her realise that reading can be as much about finding the answer as knowing the answer. (I hope that makes sense).

You mentioned she's interested in the films of Harry Potter but not so much the books because "they don't have the effects and magic, do they?"

It might be worth buying this - Harry Potter Film Wizardry - it explains how they did some of the effects in the film. You may be able to find a cheaper copy elsewhere online. www.harrypotterplatform934.com/collections/books/products/harry-potter-film-wizardry

The thing is not to push it. As you say she can read, just doesn't find it exciting. Does anyone read to her? You could. Read a book you enjoyed at her age. otherwise I wouldn't worry about it. She's still young.

lostinfrance Wed 13-May-20 10:46:05

I agree with PP that there are too many other 'easier' sources of entertainment.

As a young child I loved to read.

Nowadays I find it hard to find the time to sit and just read a book - even though I have plenty of spare time. I spend too much time on my laptop looking at online shopping and forums.. smile

I can read books on holiday - as there are fewer distractions and it's acceptable to lounge in the sunshine and do nothing but read a novel.

DS was an amazing reader - but doesn't read too much now. He is busy online doing something? Not sure what.

I haven't read the full thread - but is it possible that your DGD is struggling to read- dyslexia ? My stepson was diagnosed as being dyslexic but not until he was at high school - he had found no joy in reading and his spelling was terrible. Once he had some help it became better but he still won't sit and read a novel. We bought magazines in his favourite topic which did help a little I think.

Callistemon Wed 13-May-20 10:45:36

DGS reads avidly but not just anything - only those books which capture his imagination.
He used to like the Treehouse series of books when he was younger which may be a good series to try, they are rather whacky and illustrated too.

grandMattie Wed 13-May-20 10:40:24

As a person to whom reading is as natural as breathing I find it hard when people say they "don't read".

However, as the mother of a seriously dyslexic son, it was painful to watch him struggle. He loved comics, so to my DH's horror, I swamped him with those. Now at 38, he is a proficient reader, albeit a bit slow, and enjoys a good book.

Nil desperandum, find a strategy to get the child to enjoy reading. there are a nmber of publications which are sort of comic-like which she might enjoy and later graduate to harder more interesting stuff.

Lilyflower Wed 13-May-20 10:38:03

Audio books are a great way into reading. Put a compelling book on while some other activity is happening, such as baking, and listen with your DG.

Steven Fry reading the 'Harry Potters' is a feast for child and adult alike but there are many others to choose from. Friends of ours say the 'Just William' audio books were a hoot and ours liked 'The Famous Five' which were rubbishy but amusing.

As others have noted, sometimes it takes a jolt or a surprise to open the gates to reading so never give up trying to get your GD hooked.

Saggi Wed 13-May-20 10:36:42

You are correctTerribull ... my husband 73 has not ‘read a book’ since he was 15 and left school.He looks at ‘train’ books but even then he won’t even read the slight bit of text that goes with the picture. He was a train driver by the way.... and it was all he wanted to do.... so had trouble doing any of the book work that led up to him ‘passing his rules’ ..to be honest his lack of reading anything other than a menu all his life has shown. We cannot even attempt a conversation ...... so it is really important part of any child’s life to learn to love books.... how else can they possibly progress to a well rounded life and interesting human being ?

Callistemon Wed 13-May-20 10:30:00

And, on a practical note, has she had her eyes tested at all. It would be difficult at the moment but it could be that she may need specs. Two of my DC did at this age.

annodomini Wed 13-May-20 10:30:00

As a child, from the very beginning, I lived in a home full of books, with a big bookcase occupying an important place in the living room. My Dad read to me and I knew all the Beatrix Potter books before I could read them myself. That's how I became a bookworm. Eventually, I had the run of my parents' bookcase.

I read to my DSs and both grew up as avid readers. The GC are all good readers, but the lure of on-screen gaming has, unfortunately, pushed reading into the background.

trisher Wed 13-May-20 10:29:35

Do you read to her? I know she is older but the pattern for seeing things in your head starts when you hear stories. Sometimes people think because a child can read there is no reason to carry on reading to them. There is every reason. Choose books which will interest her -and yes it could be Harry Potter but there are lots of other great children's books. If she is having problems with reading- and really if she is stumbling over the letters at her age it is a problem, and there are any problems with her writing it might be best to have her tested for dyslexia. One of the problems with dyslexia is that the child is very bright in other areas and recognises their lack of ability so avoid reading. That said some people just never understand the attraction of reading.

sarahh56 Wed 13-May-20 10:24:46

My daughter is/was the same, I raised it with her teachers on numerous occassions as I felt something wasn't right and was fobbed off everytime. In year 6 her teacher agreed and she was referred to the hospital for a specialist eye test, they discovered when her eyes tracked the lines instead of returning to the start of a new line she skipped the line out so what she read did not make any sense, She was given eye exercises to correct this.
She is now 16 and will not read anything for pleasure which upsets me as I love reading, but years of being forced to read at school when nothing made sense has put her off completely.

Callistemon Wed 13-May-20 10:23:59

CorneliaStreet DH is like this - he never read fiction for pleasure until fairly recently and even now his choice is limited.
However, he would devour text books on subjects which interested him and still does, on subjects which many would find boring.

He told me that he once got a head master's prize at grammar school for an essay he'd written about a Dickens book they were supposed to read and how astonished his mother was. She said 'but you never read it!' and he said, 'but you took me to see the play at the theatre, it was wonderful'.

vampirequeen Wed 13-May-20 10:23:25

Forgot to mention joke books but be prepared to be driven mad with corny one liners grin

vampirequeen Wed 13-May-20 10:22:28

Does she struggle with reading? If so, that's one of the reasons she doesn't enjoy reading. Children live in a different world to us. Entertainment is visually stimulating and often requires little concentration or imagination.

Reading doesn't have to learned through books. Is she interesting in any particular subject? If so, you and she could find information on the internet about it. Some children will read if they're interested in finding out more about something. You'll have to steer clear of YouTube though or she'll just find things to watch.

Comics and magazines are another way of capturing children into reading. The pictures and short sentences in comics make them visually appealing and less daunting to the poor reader.

Or maybe she just doesn't see the value of reading beyond the basics. I don't know if it's changed since I retired but there was no time for individual reading for pleasure sessions so the children never had the chance to experience it. Reading was always for a learning purpose and never just for fun so the children often saw it as just another thing to learn rather than a way of opening up the world.

Eskay10 Wed 13-May-20 10:19:10

As a child we had books bought for us at Christmas. But I can’t remember reading any of them. We always had Bunty and Beano comics, but I didn’t read a book until I was 16 and that was The Carpetbaggers which really opened my eyes! Things today are different as there are so many beautiful books out there for all ages of children. I have a stack of books waiting to be read myself but I don't have enough time left for all of them. I’m sure your granddaughter will find something she enjoys but it might not be a novel just yet.

LJP1 Wed 13-May-20 10:17:57

If your granddaughter has any interests, apart from screen time, non-fiction books which inform and augment understanding may be the way to go. I had no time for fiction when I was her age but loved Biology and would read anything factual.

I think it stems from having no visual memory, so I couldn't 'visualise' characters & incidents in stories - I loved the language and stories in Jane Austin novels when I saw them but couldn't really follow the plot when I tried to read them.

If you are able to visualise you will find this impossible to understand but at her age I had read all the non-fiction section in our local library and was given dispensation to use the adult facilities (perhaps because I showed no interest in 'unsuitable' literature).

Good luck, she'll probably be fine in any case. Children do have a remarkable ability to find a way through unusual propensities. Encourage anything not immoral, illegal (or fattening!).

Oopsminty Wed 13-May-20 10:16:08

I think that some of us are bookworms and some aren't.

It's as simple as that

As a child I permanently had my nose in a book. Reading anywhere and everywhere.

My sister read nothing. No interest at all.

My three children are not voracious readers either. Despite having vast amounts of books in the house.

You either love to read or you don't!

Don't think you can force the issue

Brownflopsy Wed 13-May-20 10:15:34

Hello, CorneliaStreet! Ex-secondary school libraian here!

First of all, I feel your pain, as I was a huge reader from a very young age, but not everyone is the same, and these are different times - even if the age old "reading is boring" is nothing new.

You must let her go at her own pace. I really think that everyone has the capacity to love reading, but they just need to find what is right for them. Slow and steady may well win the race!

It seems from your description that she is very much about the "visuals" at the moment, so I would foster this by looking at graphic novels, rather than pushing her to read things she thinks of as too wordy. Contray to popular belief, graphic novels are a lot more than simple comics these days and some of them are pretty sophisticated - and believe it or not, you can even get the classics in graphic form (though obviously the story is pared down to the basics). Reading is reading after all!

Look for something that is the graphic form of a good book series, because once you get them hooked on a series they will often just fly through them. You don't say where her interests lie, but there are some great series out there - don't just rely on Harry Potter, although I agree she would certainly get a lot out of the books of she was interested as they have so much more in them - I think she needs something new to pique her interest. A really good bookshop, with a good children's section and knowledgeable staff should be able to help you here (although I can suggest some if you are interested). A local library may be able to help too, but they might not have much in the way of graphic novels, or a librarian with the subject knowledge you need. If you can get her interested in a graphic series, she may then be up to read the full-blown novels too.

I would just add that you should not be put off by graphic novels, even if her school may be sniffy about them (sometimes true of primary and junior schools). I have found them invaluable in cracking the really hard cases!

Why not give it a go? Be patient... be encouraging, but not pushy... and I hope she gets there!

TwiceAsNice Wed 13-May-20 10:11:53

We are all avid readers so no lack of example

MiniMoon Wed 13-May-20 10:11:37

My grandson who is 11 wouldn't read. He has just discovered the Harry Potter books, and is reading and enjoying them so much. He tells me that the movies missed out so much. There are little details and descriptions that couldn't be included in the films.
The descriptions of Dudley and his parents for example, make them completely different people from those depicted on the screen.
What your granddaughter needs to find is a book that, once begun, has to be finished.
At her age I read Little Women, What Katy Did, Great Expectations, David Copperfield and Jane Ayre to name a few.
As someone else said, we live in a different age now and reading for pleasure isn't high on their agenda.

TwiceAsNice Wed 13-May-20 10:11:29

My twin grand children are the same. We trace it back to a very difficult teacher when they were in year 3/4 she insisted they plough through the reading scheme when both of them , especially the one could read to a higher level. They got so bored they switched off and stopped reading. My daughter protested many times, sent their own books in but as other issues were also not as she agreed with actually moved them schools but too late. Much happier in second school but still no reading!

They now read only when they have to. Will happily read recipes as they like to help cook. We all read to them every day including at bedtime and they will read factual better than story but the initial enthusiasm has been lost and I am very cross with that teacher that started it all!

Moggycuddler Wed 13-May-20 10:09:34

Try audio books from Audible? Maybe one that's read by an actor that she knows and likes? (A lot are very well read by popular actors.) It might just help to make her realise how much fun a book can be and eventually read them for herself. Or at least listen to books. I have physical issues that make it uncomfortable for me to hold books, so a few years ago I joined Audible and now I listen to books every day. I enjoy them just as much as if I read them myself, if not more. And I don't need to miss out on the books I fancy. I have listened to books read by John Simm, Benedict Cumberbatch, Richard Armitage and many other well known actors who really breathe life into good books.

Theoddbird Wed 13-May-20 10:04:23

A child of ten will rebel against a adults wishes Reverse psychology can work. Tell the child that reading is not important. Tell them not to bother. I used this method on many things with my children