‘Spare’ by Prince Harry

Everybody 🤔

Well, I don't so perhaps someone on here can let me know?
So far, I haven't seen a synopsis on here.

11unicorn and volver I'm with you. I suspect GN is getting a bit like MN. There never used to be nastiness here.

fluttERBY123

11unicorn and volver I'm with you. I suspect GN is getting a bit like MN. There never used to be nastiness here.

There seem to be a few new posters on this thread.

Lucca

HannahLoisLuke

I am surprised at the choice of title, as it was his mother who coined the phrase, “I’ve done my duty and produced the heir and a spare”

That phrase has been around for centuries

Actually I’ve done a bit of Googling, though you have to scroll past pages and pages of Harry and Meghan till you get to stuff about origins of phrases.

It seems to have been coined in the very late 19th Century by (ohdear now I’ve forgotten her name) anyway a wife of the Churchill family, one of the American Vanderbilts.

Attempting to get out of an unhappy marriage she insisted she had done her duty by producing “an heir and a spare”.

Though obviously the concept has been around since Adam and Eve, who after the death of Abel, felt it necessary to produce a replacement.

There isn’t that interesting 🤔🙂🙄

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11unicorn You like Harry and Meghan ! You don't set your bar high do you ? I personally can't abide liars and those 2 don't do truth.

Honest to god, what is wrong with people today?

Is it the prospect of the clocks changing? Halloween maybe?

Really nice, volver

If we're going to be honest, yes, I agree with fluttERBY123

Many of us have been on GN for a long time and no, it was never as nasty as it has become lately.

Yes, there have been some very snippy comments.
Including yours.

I've not said anything unkind about Harry, btw, in case you want to peruse the thread thoroughly.

volver

Honest to god, what is wrong with people today?

Is it the prospect of the clocks changing? Halloween maybe?

I think you’ve got to accept that you like what you know of them and there are many others who don’t like what they know of them. That said, none of us actually know them. However, we form Our individual opinions from what we read, what they say, what they do, their TV interviews, their behaviour towards their family members. And we all have to agree to disagree. But we will know more when his book comes out and then we may know a bit more than we do currently. Or not.

Lathyrus

Lucca

HannahLoisLuke

I am surprised at the choice of title, as it was his mother who coined the phrase, “I’ve done my duty and produced the heir and a spare”

That phrase has been around for centuries

Actually I’ve done a bit of Googling, though you have to scroll past pages and pages of Harry and Meghan till you get to stuff about origins of phrases.

It seems to have been coined in the very late 19th Century by (ohdear now I’ve forgotten her name) anyway a wife of the Churchill family, one of the American Vanderbilts.

Attempting to get out of an unhappy marriage she insisted she had done her duty by producing “an heir and a spare”.

Though obviously the concept has been around since Adam and Eve, who after the death of Abel, felt it necessary to produce a replacement.

There isn’t that interesting 🤔🙂🙄

Yes.

Apparently it was usual amongst the upper classes to remain faithful until "the heir and the spare" were born.

^Yes, there have been some very snippy comments.
Including yours.^

Never mind, no-one will ever know because I've been deleted.

Wonder how that happened?

What?

because I've been deleted
But you're still here 🤔

Calendargirl

^If he has written the truth^

A big ‘if’.

His (and hers of course) idea of the truth.

I thought this too. I’m reading Revenge by Tom Bower. Only a few chapters in but some very interesting insights into Meghan’s idea of ‘truth’.

Forsythia

volver

Honest to god, what is wrong with people today?

Is it the prospect of the clocks changing? Halloween maybe?

I think you’ve got to accept that you like what you know of them and there are many others who don’t like what they know of them. That said, none of us actually know them. However, we form Our individual opinions from what we read, what they say, what they do, their TV interviews, their behaviour towards their family members. And we all have to agree to disagree. But we will know more when his book comes out and then we may know a bit more than we do currently. Or not.

I neither like them nor dislike them.

I think they are a bit airy-fairy but I don't think they made anybody's life a misery and I don't think Meghan is the manipulative b***h some people think she is. I don't think Harry looks miserable all the time.

It's possible to hope they wouldn't be publishing books and yet not act like a 12-year old, calling them names and making comments about their mental health.

I'll not be reading the book.

Well I confess to not having EFT but I’ve skimmed.
At the risk of being accused (again) of having been conned by two truly dreadful human beings ‘ naive ‘ dumb/ can I say I’m once more stunned by the level of anger and vitriol aimed at Harry and Meghan.
It’s vicious, totally unnecessary and adds nothing positive to our lives.

There have to be more serious things to get wound up about.

I’m not flouncing, I’m walking slowly back to a thread that might not explode with anger

I don’t think everybody has done that to be fair. But that is your perception. My perception is that Meghan is everything people say she is and a whole lot more. Time will tell.

How long do we all have to wait Forsythia?

Iam64

Well I confess to not having EFT but I’ve skimmed.
At the risk of being accused (again) of having been conned by two truly dreadful human beings ‘ naive ‘ dumb/ can I say I’m once more stunned by the level of anger and vitriol aimed at Harry and Meghan.
It’s vicious, totally unnecessary and adds nothing positive to our lives.

There have to be more serious things to get wound up about.

I’m not flouncing, I’m walking slowly back to a thread that might not explode with anger

I did say that I might not buy the book, possibly the worst thing I could have said!

I did get cross with a poster who said that Harry's family might consider him expendable.
That did upset me, particularly with Remembrance Day approaching.

There have to be more serious things to get wound up about
Yes

I am not that interested in the RF or the Harry and Meghan thing, but have a friend who worked very closely with Harry.
His sentibali charity with the King of Lesotho is related to them both losing their mothers early, but other than that I have never enquired what he ( and William) are really like. They may not tell me much, but might just ask.

This book feels to me as though it’s going to be the the last one about the past from Harry or Meghan, and I’ll be glad when the book’s out, everybody’s read it, commented and complained, the fallout is dealt with and we can all move forward, them included, with nothing more to be said.

Wow. Harry’s being his own person. Not everyone is cut out for the Monarchy. He didn’t ask to be born in it, yet had to endure an abnormal upbringing and tragedy at such a young age under everyone’s glare - yet, went on with his education, served valiantly in the military, a few scrapes along the way (life lessons!), started a few foundations, met the woman he wanted to marry, is raiding a family.

He’s got a story to tell. We ALL have a book within us, don’t you think? I don’t begrudge him. His story might be more interesting than mine. I will buy it.

But across the pond, here, we are divided too over the Royals - half are fascinated, the others…”meh.” We have our own problems here with a Former Guy who Thinks He’s Royal.

Everyone loves to judge. Let’s read it first, sit back and watch it play out. This will be interesting. Be grateful you are not the one dealing with this!
Cheers!
USA Gundy

Casdon

This book feels to me as though it’s going to be the the last one about the past from Harry or Meghan, and I’ll be glad when the book’s out, everybody’s read it, commented and complained, the fallout is dealt with and we can all move forward, them included, with nothing more to be said.

I thought he’d signed a three book deal so I doubt we’ll get it all at once. 🤔

I doubt if really many people know what’s in it beyond Harry himself, his ghost-writer (I assume) and his publisher

You omitted Meghan, but I am sure she had plenty of input.

If not, must be a first.

grannypiper

11unicorn You like Harry and Meghan ! You don't set your bar high do you ? I personally can't abide liars and those 2 don't do truth.

I don't have strong feelings about either of them. There are a lot of people in the world I dislike more. One of them is Harry's Uncle Andy, who if I were the late Queen I would be much more distressed by than her grandson and his wife.

Can you tell me what untruths they have wilfully and knowingly told? Are you absolutely sure none of them could be more accurately construed as differences of perspective?