Good news. The ladies only classes have stopped at my leisure centre.

reprimand you Frank? That's a bit strong.

Hi shysal

My kit is washed every other class but my daughters have said it might be good to get some different colour kit.
I got 3 lots the same colour as it was reduced at the time.
Oddly I have a coat and a lady noticed I has it when she joined in 2008 as she has the same colour. I had not had it long at that point and she thinks hers is about the same age. I do have 2 other coats.
It is washed but I think it is time they are replaced when I next go past the shop.
She has said she will replace hers in the near future.
They are put on the floor so I do not think it is a serious issue.

Frank

too right petallus about men dominating mixed conversation.

Excuse my ignorance , but what do you have a coat for ?

I have heard or seen that .

typo , I have "never"

Hi j07

You may be surprised but a lady thinks most of the classes she goes to are now ageing.
She told me she has been going since 1985 and she said a good number were there before her.
I was 50+ when I joined these classes in Birmingham but at the time I thought I was too fit to go into a 50+ class and I can remember 2 instructors saying they thought I was a bit lively for 50+ classes.
In some respects I think it is a shame that there is only 1 50+ class left at the centre. There were 2 at one time.
I could be wrong but I think when a person has been in a class for years they make friends there and do not want to change.
Also I think it reflects society. Many of the 50+ ladies are carers and some are 60+ and can not make a specific class every week ( things crop up like hospital appointments ) so they just use the normal classes and just take a bit more care.
Oddly enough I have problems convincing medical staff I am 63. They think I am more like 50 as I have very little grey hair and also a full head of hair.

Frank

Hi Nonu

I probably should have described it as more like a track suit top.
Most of the ladies wear similar coat type tops when they walk to the car park.

Frank

Get it now .

Are we talking aerobics or keep fit here? I can't believe you would get many 60 plus ladies in an actual aerobics class. But if you do, then I'm glad they have medical staff standing by.

You couldn't wear a track suit type jacket for aerobics. You sweat too much.

It's not the full head of hair that would do the convincing, it's not losing the thread of the conversation!

This thread is surreal and hilarious!

Mad, sad and very funny, I agree hummingbird. I'd love to see Frank strutting his stuff!

Kit washed every other class? Do you not work up a sweat then Frank? When dried sweat warms up it pongs!

HunterF Is English your first language? Your posts seem very disjointed and a little difficult to follow.

You also seem very determined to make us understand that your doctor, dentist, instructors and others are all 'ladies' Why is that?

The thought of elderly men doing 'aerobics' in baggy shorts is hilarious! The mind boggles!!!

It's not the age thing I'm questioning. Just why would you want to be in a class where all the others are women. I understand you joined the classes some time ago and the class, and you, have aged since then. That makes perfect sense. I just think there must be some more manlythings you could be doing than aerobic. Or ladies' keep fit.

I do not find Hunter's posts at all difficult to follow.

If they were I would not have this picture in my head................

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HunterF's posts make me wonder how many other 63 (?) year old men think this way.
I don't know any.
I suppose that makes him unique

Oldgreymare Sadly, there are plenty if old and middle-aged – even young – men who think that women are getting above themselves. It wasn't long ago that the overpaid male news presenters got themselves all steamed up about the "domination of women at the BBC". I wish…

This thread has taken on a surreal air don't you think?

You're right Absent I had forgotten about the issues at the BBC.
Personal experience doesn't move an argument on either does it. So maybe I'll dip out of this one, however strangely compelling it is!
I did enjoy gracesmum's comment (above- 14:09:50)

On the contrary, I know quite a few men like Frank who are old school 'Gentlemen' and expect ladies to act in a Ladylike manner. They just do not 'get it' that their language and behaviour is considered condescending and paternalistic by modern women, especially as their wives (if any), mothers, sisters and many of their elderly female contemporaries consider them to be perfect gentlemen and butter them up. I am not surprised that the 'ladies' who attend classes with Frank are very friendly towards him. He is a widower, fit, has a full head of hair, speaks fondly of his daughters and Grandaughters, owns his own house and obviously has a bob or two.

We are wasting our time trying to convert Frank to a modern man, he does little harm and much good. Better to concentrate our efforts on the really bad guys.

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Only just caught up with all this!

when (going back a page) I too dislike the use of the word "ladies" in the sort of context where "women" would be so much more appropriate:

Gentlemen & ladies
Men & women

"gentlemen's aerobic classes" for example? I think not.

"Ladies" can feel so patronising, though I do recognise that it is often a misguided attempt to be nice to the little women...

Sorry, I don't see absents post as an "attack", more a theory or an observation. I think the comment "usual bullies" is more contentious.