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260 transgressions each year

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absent Thu 25-Apr-13 07:25:38

For some unexplained reason, Karcher (helpfully described by The Daily Telegraph as "the cleaning specialists") commissioned some research which reveals that the average person breaks 260 rules each year. These misdemeanours include dropping litter, driving in bus lanes, fare dodging, putting feet on train seats and taking sugar sachets from cafés. I don't know anyone who does any of these things. Having sex in a public space is described as "commonplace".

Who on earth are these people who admit to breaking "little rules" five times a week or 16,250 times in a lifetime?

Orca Thu 25-Apr-13 07:34:14

Well there are four of the above I would never do!

Ella46 Thu 25-Apr-13 08:05:14

They are probably the same people who keep blogging about every little incident in their lives!

shysal Thu 25-Apr-13 08:26:27

I never do any of the above or anything similar , so to average out at his figure there must be many ill-mannered people out there.

Bags Thu 25-Apr-13 08:34:37

I have dropped litter by accident – lost hold of something that then blew away in the wind. I have driven in bus lanes – part-time bus lanes that allow it. I dodged a fare or two in my evil teens. I have added sugar sachets that cafés have given me unasked (and which I've paid for of course) to our camping stash because DH takes sugar in his coffee. Jolly useful to have small sachets. My dad used to do the same when he was given two with his drink and only needed one.

"Rules are made to be broken". A lot of rules are silly anyway.

If what you do doesn't harm anyone, it doesn't matter.

I've never seen a couple having sex in a public place so I don't believe it's commonplace. Or, if it is, they do it when no-one else is around, in which case, so what?

In fact, so what anyway?

Greatnan Thu 25-Apr-13 08:42:14

I have never knowingly done any of those things - I have just got back from taking my foster dog for a walk and I used the little plastic bags that the commune here in Switzerland helpfully provides (and a special bin) to pick up her faeces. However, if I take her across a field where cows have been, I don't pick it up because I am sure it will biodegrade much quicker in the sun and rain than the plastic bag would.
I have had two speeding tickets (only a few kms over, my little Fiat Panda is not much of a hot rod) in 47 years of driving.

When I was about eight, my brother dared me to take an apple from outside the greengrocer's shop and I did. I couldn't eat it and I was convinced for months that the police would come for me.

This sounds like a bit of publicity seeking by this company.

BAnanas Thu 25-Apr-13 09:20:42

I put my hand up to dropping litter occasionally when I was young, I hate myself for having done that now, it would be one of the few things that I would change about my young self if I could go back. I remember my mum telling me off with the line I trotted out to my children "what would the world be like if we all dropped our litter everywhere?"

annodomini Thu 25-Apr-13 09:35:36

Speeding tickets - four in Britain, two in Kenya, and once or twice driving in a bus lane. Oh, how good it is to get that off my chest! wink

FlicketyB Thu 25-Apr-13 09:35:50

Well, I have been known to break the speed limit, I do not mean driving at 50 in a 30 mile limit, but when one's speed drifts over the speed limit and then you slow down again, but that is breaking a rule. I did that yesterday on a 50 mph country road and then when I nipped into a local shop I didn't put a ticket on my car to show that I was within the one hour free parking limit, DH was sitting in car and I was only gone 5 minutes. That is 2 yesterday alone.

Today, so far so good, but when I go into town later it is just possible that I could park my car without paying for a minute or two beyond the 1 hour free parking period and I might even cross the road when the pedestrian light says red because there isn't a car in sight. And, I have just remembered, when out walking this morning I picked up a couple of pieces of clay pipe (the smoking kind) and a tiny piece of glazed pottery out of the plough soil of a field that ran be side the footpath I was on. Does that count as theft?

It is not the big bad things we do it is the little unconsidered trifles. It is still breaking the rules

Greatnan Thu 25-Apr-13 12:33:02

Anno - I had no problem in getting rid of my guilt - I went to confession and had to say three Hail Marys. See what you missed in your non-Catholic childhood? Those early church fathers knew a thing or two about psychology. grin

Bags Thu 25-Apr-13 13:18:02

"still breaking the rules", but so what? If it's a silly rule or if one's breaking it hurts no-one and no-thing, it doesn't matter. I honestly don't care if I break rules so long as the outcome isn't harmful. Some rules are so silly they're asking to be broken.

I also think some rules are diversionary tactics to keep people's minds occupied with what actually doesn't matter. An example is school uniform rules – DD's school has recently introduced a blazer that they want all pupils to wear. Many of the pupils don't want to wear it and are rebelling in their schoolkid way (DD refused to go to the first "fitting", for instance). Their attention is focussed on something that really isn't terribly important in the big scheme of things, so they forget to be rebellious about other actually important rules. Gotta give the school credit for deviousness, really wink

Bet she gives in for the next fitting in early June.

Meanwhile I watch with amusement.

grannyactivist Thu 25-Apr-13 13:33:31

Is there a rule about taking sugar sachets from a cafe? A rule? Really? Where would this rule be posted? I've never seen such a rule in the whole of my fifty nine years?

I am the butt of many family jokes because if there is a rule then I am known for abiding by it. One of my children was next to me in the car and he thought I was driving at 31mph in a 30 zone and quite gleefully crowed about it, until his brother who was behind me pointed out that his view of the speedometer was distorted and I was actually doing 29mph. As for dropping litter; I just can't do it and will go to stupid lengths to capture litter which accidentally escapes me.

merlotgran Thu 25-Apr-13 13:33:36

Talking of throwing litter, did anyone see Scott and Bailey, or as DH calls them, Bott and Scaley last night? I was yelling, 'PICK THAT UP' when one of them chucked an empty drinks carton into an alleyway. Great example....hmm

glassortwo Thu 25-Apr-13 13:47:10

I parked on double yellow lines outside the chemist yesterday first time ever shock everyone in the village just ignore them, so I thought if you cant beat them join them. wink

OHHH and when I was about 7yrs I shook a syscamore tree for the helicopters on the RAF camp where we lived and got the wrath of the Sgt.
I couldnt sleep for weeks as he threatened to drag my Dad into the guardroom and charge him, I lived on the edge of my nerves everytime Dad came back from camp incase the Sgt had told him.

Greatnan Thu 25-Apr-13 14:02:05

Merlot, that had me hopping mad as well!
When my girls were about 6 the younger one said very seriously that nobody could rob the bank in Mold, because they wouldn't be able to park the getaway car on the double yellow lines. Perhaps I had stressed good behaviour a bit too much. However, she seemed to get over it by the time she was 16. Luckily, she got married at 17 (and she wasn't even pregnant - there's posh!)

gracesmum Thu 25-Apr-13 14:07:07

I note that nobody is "owning up" to the public place thing.......?hmm

glassortwo Thu 25-Apr-13 14:07:38


glassortwo Thu 25-Apr-13 14:08:06

What you trying to tell us grace smile

Bags Thu 25-Apr-13 14:13:08

merlot, I did that at Lochcarron once when I saw a child of about ten years old drop a can he'd been drinking from onto the beach. In my best teacher voice, I said: "Pick that up! Put it in a bin!" He did.

I surprised myslef actually. Then I looked round for outraged parents but there were none, which was perhaps why he did it, the blighter!

Greatnan Thu 25-Apr-13 14:30:13

I heard about an elderly woman in Cheltenham who was very 'Ladies College' with the cut-glass accent. She saw a youth throw a can on the floor and picked it up and handed it to him. 'I don't want it' he said'.
'Neither does Cheltenham' she said in her poshest voice. He put it in the bin.
I used to use my best teacher's voice quite often, such as the time some lads were using bad language in the cinema queue, in front of my two little girls. I just said that it would be nice if they didn't swear because my girls were not used to it and they actually apologised. I am not sure I would intervene now - too many young people high on drugs or alcohol and ready to pull a knife.

Greatnan Thu 25-Apr-13 14:32:54

I had an argument with my daughter about taking unused toiletries from a hotel bathroom. She said I shouldn't so I asked the manager, who laughed and said they were promotional and they expected people to take them (not the slippers, dressing gowns or towels though). Same with books of matches and sachets of sugar - they are provided for customers and whether you use them on the premises or somewhere else is immaterial to the business. They often carry adverts.

harrigran Thu 25-Apr-13 14:52:50

Perfectly fine to take any unused shower gel or shampoo, they are just swept into bin bags. Fine to take slippers too because they are binned, nobody else would wear them and they are single use standard.
Never done any of the other things, well maybe one blush

Butty Thu 25-Apr-13 15:40:03

I don't drop litter but I have....
Taken toiletries from hotel rooms (I've paid for them after all)
Taken sugar sachets (always - ditto)
Parked on double yellows when some pratt (clearly not disabled) used one of the very few disabled parking bays
Broken the speed limit on motorways
Fare dodged on the tram in Bordeaux (not deliberately)

Never lost any sleep.

Sometimes it's good, useful and necessary to step out of the 'box' of rules

numberplease Thu 25-Apr-13 15:41:00

I know a couple who were had up in court for having sex in the street!

harrigran Thu 25-Apr-13 15:46:36

Not a good idea to fare dodge on the metro system in north east, they name and shame you on billboards.