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Anniebach Sun 18-Jun-17 10:10:32

Difficult to word this . No politics please

Have we become too touchy feely? Too American - I feel you pain .

Remembering the Diana hysteria, Charles was uncaring father and husband, queenie very lucky Balmoral wasn't stormed and she was given a public hanging .

'Your people need you' 'show us you care'

Charles Spencer the adulterer and like his father a bully to his wife. He was applauded for a sentimental speech, not forgetting he first blamed the press then switched to the windsors.

I didn't need queenie, who did?

The same is happening now.

Why the need for public display of emotions?

This is not to lay blame for Diana's death or what is happening now, just wondering if anyone thinks as I do, I don't need celebrities or politicians or royals to do a public display of - I feel you pain .

Hope we are spared another rewording of Candle In The Wind

Why do we need this? I really am puzzled

Anniebach Tue 20-Jun-17 15:02:41

Corbyn is an MP, May is PM. Big difference in their working day is there not?
Parliament is not sitting so nothing else for Corbyn to do that day, surely no one can believe May did not have others matters to attend to, and I do not mean weeding an allotment .

This is just the Corbyn fanatics looking for an excuse to attack May, nothing balanced or fair in your criticism . I don't want a Tory government but I will not support this far left pettiness

Bagatelle Tue 20-Jun-17 15:56:13

Who is that aimed at, Annie? I agree with you totally that this is May-bashing. If she had spent the day hugging people, she would have been in the wrong for not getting on with a public inquiry.

trisher Tue 20-Jun-17 15:58:34

www.facebook.com/JJDO4/videos/1837164739933398/
Scarely accurate and predictive The original Hose of Cards and Ian Richardson so cold and calculating!

trisher Tue 20-Jun-17 15:58:56

Sorry House

devongirl Tue 20-Jun-17 16:32:09

Bagatelle as has been said before, she could have combined meeting residents with meeting emergency services, she wasn't required to hug.

Anniebach Tue 20-Jun-17 16:57:46

So you know her diary for that day?

Anniebach Tue 20-Jun-17 17:01:22

Bagatelle, I did say to those who were looking for an excuse to attack May, I apologise to anyone who thought differently

WilmaKnickersfit Tue 20-Jun-17 17:50:41

trisher I've got a feeling that video will go viral.

Iam64 Tue 20-Jun-17 19:09:44

I've not seen House of Cards but that video tells me I will. It's excellent and so timely. Thanks trishet.

Iam64 Tue 20-Jun-17 19:10:18

Sorry, trisher, we need an edit button!

durhamjen Tue 20-Jun-17 19:37:27

Better not tell Iam how it ends, then, trisher.

whitewave Tue 20-Jun-17 19:59:49

I am sure it will /all ready is viral. As it has been sent to me by two other sources already.

It is pretty astounding though. Just waiting for the same ending and I will then definately believe in real life following art.

WilmaKnickersfit Tue 20-Jun-17 20:09:53

It looks like it is going viral. It's been picked up by most of the papers, as well as websites with worldwide audiences.

Eloethan Tue 20-Jun-17 22:37:28

I think May was an ineffective Home Secretary and has proved to be ineffective as PM. But just because she is now PM does not mean that she should be singled out for blame in this tragedy. Austerity and the cost-cutting that went with it was a policy insisted upon and championed by the whole of the Conservative Party. It may be convenient for some (including the press) to direct a barrage of criticism at May in order to deflect blame away from Conservative collective responsibility for the sort of rigid ideology that seems to have prioritised monetary savings over the safety and wellbeing of the population. I do, however, think that it was reasonable of people to expect May, as PM, to speak with the residents of Grenfell when she visited the site.

anniebach Have you been happy with the way May has dealt with this awful situation and her responses to questions regarding what happens next? The last time I saw her interviewed (by Emily Maitlis) she kept repeating over and over again what everybody already knew - that it is a terrible tragedy, people have lost their loved ones and everything they own, they are traumatised, etc. etc. etc. She concluded the interview: “What I’m now absolutely focused on is ensuring that we get that support on the ground. Government is making money available; we are ensuring we are going to get to the bottom of what happened we will ensure that people are rehoused, but we need to make sure that that actually happens.”

In fact, the response to the needs and distress of the people who have been bereaved and/or who have lost their homes and everything they own has been abysmal. Even though it is said that now there is better organisation, people on the ground have resported, with astonishment, that up until this point they had been left to their own devices, with no extra staff or services called in and no co-ordination of the services provided by community volunteers.

Jalima1108 Tue 20-Jun-17 23:33:06

Interesting to watch Hospital tonight - I only saw part of it but the team dealing with the aftermath of the Westminster attack were told to put their emotions to one side because they had work to do and obviously they would need to be focused on the tasks ahead.

If our emergency services, hospital staff and government including the PM allowed their emotions to take over at times like this they would not be able to do their jobs effectively.

Perhaps the Council who should have had an Emergency Action Plan in place as all Councils do has collapsed behind the scenes that is why there are reports of them being ineffectual.

rosesarered Tue 20-Jun-17 23:34:21

anniebach it wouldn't matter what some politicians say or do, it will never be enough for some.

durhamjen Tue 20-Jun-17 23:39:40

Jalima, those same people will be dealing with Grenfell now. There are some in critical care there now.

WilmaKnickersfit Tue 20-Jun-17 23:42:10

When we were watching, I said something similar about K&C's Emergency Plan having gone AWOL to my DH. I know our council has one because there's been drills over the years. No doubt the chaos in the days after the tragedy will be investigated. It better be.

Jalima1108 Tue 20-Jun-17 23:44:53

djen my DGN is one of the people dealing with the aftermath of these attacks but I was accused of virtue signalling or words to that effect when I posted something a while ago about the nurses and doctors running towards the Westminster tragedy.
She works in intensive care.

durhamjen Tue 20-Jun-17 23:57:46

Oh, Jalima, that must be awful. I've been in intensive care, and so was my husband, and I know how hard those people work. I admire people who do that so much.

Jalima1108 Wed 21-Jun-17 00:36:17

Emotions are put on one side and getting on with doing their very best for the patients. People are still in a critical condition and of course they lost a colleague in the London Bridge attack.

Elrel Wed 21-Jun-17 01:02:32

People (not officials or politicians) helping at Grenfell say there were council housing advisors in two of the relief centres. Maybe the problem is difficulty in setting up means of communication, especially as many residents must still be in some degree of shock.

Anniebach Wed 21-Jun-17 08:48:41

Eleothan, I am thankful she didn't do the 'I feel their pain' as Corbyn did when asked about the attack on the victims at the mosque

Iam64 Wed 21-Jun-17 09:07:03

Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn are different personalities. the way zcirbyn was vilified in the press was disgusting and unhelpful. The way in which Theresa May is now the subject of similar treatment is equally disgusting and unhelpful.

Do we really want a society that is so divided and polarised? If the battering the Tories got during and subsequent to the election campaign leads them out if the brutal approach to austerity, ill be pleased. Their manifesto is toast. Good. I sincerely hope hard Brexit is now out the window. All those claims Leaving would reduce red tape and health and safety gone mad - out the window. Good.

Anniebach Wed 21-Jun-17 09:12:20

May reminds me of Gordon Brown - not politically - he couldn't ' do' tv either, Corbyn is Oscar material.