ISIS girl

I wish I could see life in such a black and white way as many posters apparently can, makes for a much simpler life.

Politicians need to get their act together and any one convicted of treason should be jailed for life on return to the UK.

Aiding or being a terrorist of a group that has declared war on us is treason.

Well I tend to see the Manchester victims, the borough market victims and the London Bridge victims the 7:7 victims in terms of black of white.

They were once alive and now they are dead.

That’s pretty plain isn’t it. Is that simple enough to grasp?

So, did this girl/woman actually have a part in the Manchester Bombing?

Does lying on her back and then bearing the subsequent children actually constitute "aiding" the terrorists?

So far as I can make out, it's mostly in her silly head.

Mycat
I go further than you. Anyone who wants to kill or maim me and mine don't deserve to live.

Mycats.... Aged I may be but I don't generally find it difficult to grasp things. Thankfully we in the UK have an independant judiciary which can decide cases and make rulings according to the rule of law even if the decisions are politically unpopular.

They won't show remorse in case it's seen as " letting the side down " so what does that tell you ? That de-radicalisation will work ? Of course it won't ! They'd be shot by their own if they were seen weeping and wailing.
They're a liability to this country as well as to those who they chose to join as either way they're sitting ducks.

I don't know if it's true or not but I have read that there is a video on YouTube of SB's father waving an Isis flag and burning a Union Jack at a pro-Isis rally. Hardly a fit person to have care of a vulnerable baby boy. If she is allowed back I hope her baby is removed and adopted by someone other than her family. Perhaps the Dutch grandparents if they are willing. Poor wee mite.

Gonegirl

Yes she did play her part by joining the group, prostituting herself to a terrorist and providing succour, support, concert to terrorists. She may have witnessed beheadings and killings so utterly complicit.

Lazygirl

That’s exactly what I said she should be put on trial.

I do wish people weren’t so quick to deny this woman agency to her actions. It’s so patronising

I suggest some of you look at child soldiers and what is considered a child soldier. She qualifies as such in many ways. Mycatisahacker she was 15 when she left the UK and not much older when she married. Children cannot be prostitutes. They are abused.

We're a civilised country where we don't employ child soldiers. What other countries do is up to them and in this particular case she KNEW what she was going into as it was HER choice, nobody held a gun to her head to join ISIS. !

While you're on the subject of abuse trisher, spare a thought for all those poor girls who, in this country WERE forced into prostitution in the Rotherham sexual exploitation scandal-----------How did you view that trisher ?

What about the Yazidi girls who were raped by ISIS as the women held them down?

Sorry, but some of them were only little girls.

What about the Yazidi women and girls who were burned to death in cages after they refused to have sex with ISIS fighters?

Human Rights Watch has said that the treatment of the Yazidis by ISIS amounts to genocide.

Do not forget them.
She was complicit in this by joining ISIS.

She may come back here as she is a UK citizen but she must face justice.

We are talking about this one young woman. Or at least I thought we were.

That's the problem with GN discussions Gonegirl posters seem unable to discuss one thing without digressing.
One case of abuse does not and should not diminish another.

Well, I just hope this goes through the British courts, where it can be judged properly.

She can't be just written off by a politician putting his name to a piece of paper.

She was complicit in this by joining ISIS.

That is not digression.

What is the connection with the abuse in Rotherham?

I was linking the Yazidis with the Kurds although they are not the same group as those in Syria as far as I know.

She is in the custody (at the moment) of the Kurds I believe.

I think there's too much emotion knocking about on this thread. We have so much cause in this country to hate IS. That's why it needs to go through a court of law where it will be viewed discompassionately, ie relating to this woman only without any other events colouring it. For that she needs to come back.

Yes Jalima I believe the Kurds run that camp, and they don't want to carry on doing so. So something's got to happen.

It is far too much of a burden for the Kurds, they have managed on their own without a lot of help so far. They deserve their own homeland and to be able to live in peace.

Many, many people are appalled and distressed by the violence and abuse of minority groups e.g. Yazidi . Dreadful when one group has the political ideology that promotes the brutalisation & destruction of another cultural group. It should be opposed and challenged wherever it occurs.

I am confused at the odd way some minds work..Rotherham?