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I feel sorry for Prince Harry

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Artdecogran Sun 12-Jan-20 12:00:22

After looking at all the news reports etc I have come to the conclusion that Harry is really stuck in the middle of his wife and the RF. Meghan married Harry very quickly, which can cause difficulties in ‘normal’ families, but with the emotionally constipated RF it was a disaster waiting to happen. If someone like Diana, who had experience of royalty couldn’t cope with the way of life or the hold the courtiers have over proceedings, how could a feisty American. Catherine has only managed it because she and William took a very long time to get her settled into the RF.
Moving to a new country, getting married, having a baby and trying to fit into the RF is a heavy burden, and then being bullied completely by the press is enough to make anyone crack. The daily mail is still dredging up anyone they can to slate Meghan and Harry.
Harry is trying to protect his wife, and according to recent reports, has tried to initiate changes but has been rebuffed at every stage. I would think that seeing the photos on the Queen’s desk didn’t show him or Meghan or their son was hurtful and an indication that they no longer counted. The further photos of the 4 reigning/next in line would surely have pushed home that point.
Harry has slumped down the line of succession, the same thing that happened to Andrew, Anne and Edward. But they had each other to share this change of status and that surely made matters easier.
I think Harry feels very alone and impotent and is trying very hard to change things for his wife, but has had to make a huge fuss to get anyone to listen. If you add in his own personal problems then I am very surprised that he is still trying to go forward instead of just giving up. Perhaps now the RF will abandon their stiff upper lip and treat Harry better than they did Diana.
Sorry for long waffle.

MawB Mon 13-Jan-20 19:10:46

As I remember William and Kate “retreated” to Norfolk for a while after George was born - possibly Charlotte too. Perhaps William came back to London on occasion but my impression was of a spell of peace and quiet and family bonding.
OK Canada is a bit further but the principle remains doesn't it?

maddyone Mon 13-Jan-20 19:11:37

Yes Sparki, that’s pure voyeurism.
I don’t take any pleasure in seeing Harry so distressed, or the rest of the family. I’m afraid I do blame Meghan. I hope now this process has been started that Meghan is able to settle down and not cause any more pain to either Harry or the rest of the family. It’s tough enough for him that he’s being forced to choose either his wife or his family. It would be extremely tacky to do any interviews at all, and thereby sell themselves, but Oprah! Very, very tacky. I hope that Harry wouldn’t stoop that low, but it wouldn’t surprise me if Meghan would. She doesn’t value family unless they’re doing something for her.

maddyone Mon 13-Jan-20 19:13:52

Maw, I don’t think Catherine and William ever even considered going on a talk show to earn money, or using their royal name/connections to make money, so I don’t think it’s the same thing at all.

MissAdventure Mon 13-Jan-20 19:16:01

It must be so tedious being constantly compared to an older sibling and falling short on every single thing.

sparkii Mon 13-Jan-20 19:19:06

I suppose M must be pretty hurt? Possibly?

There is more going on here than we know.

Callistemon Mon 13-Jan-20 19:19:52

Yes MissA.
It's like being back at school and being told 'Your sister is so clever, brilliant at sports, Head Girl' etc etc

But it is all played out in public.

Callistemon Mon 13-Jan-20 19:20:25

Sorry, in this case 'Brother'.

sparkii Mon 13-Jan-20 19:20:34

She doesn’t value family

Her mother and her seem close and she loves her husband and son???? Will that do?

Callistemon Mon 13-Jan-20 19:22:24

Of course Meghan will be hurt.

I would think that been hurt for a long time by the media reports - which is why they both probably want out.
They don't want the same thing to happen to Archie.

Callistemon Mon 13-Jan-20 19:23:18

She has been hurt

This tablet decides what I should be saying and amends things accordingly.

Anniebach Mon 13-Jan-20 19:23:46

They couldn’t find a spell of peace and family bonding
in Frogmore ?

I hope Harry goes back to Canada soon and the press doesn’t report on every thing they do.

It’s taking attention away from the work the royal family members carry out.

maddyone Mon 13-Jan-20 19:24:42

No sparki, it won’t do. She has a father, and many family members from both sides of her family. She has cut them all off without any regret. Who on earth only has their mother to a huge wedding such as theirs? And then fills the church with tacky, tinsel town celebrities!

Tedber Mon 13-Jan-20 19:25:20

Possibly MAW but they didn’t make a song and dance about it did they?

TBH I have about as much sympathy for Harry and Megan as I have for any “celebrities” who complain bitterly about over exposure! If you don’t like the heat - get out the kitchen.

Don’t expect it both ways!!! Either stop performing, live a
Nice quiet life wherever but don’t use the media when it suits!

And certainly do not take public funds with you (in case of royalty)

Am not for or against our Royal family. Actually love our queen. Feel sad for her as it will never be the same again.

Maybe it is time for her to step down? My guess is in 10 years we will be Without a Royal Family. Times have changed. x

Calendargirl Mon 13-Jan-20 19:25:28

MawB

Don’t think William ever said he wanted to opt out of being a senior Royal, set up a separate website and trademarked his name or whatever. Also never expressed a wish for financial independence.

Callistemon Mon 13-Jan-20 19:26:07

It is Anniebach

And in the meantime, fires still rage in Australia, thousands of people are being driven out of their homes in Syria, Iran is in turmoil.

Anniebach Mon 13-Jan-20 19:27:05

If she gets a role in a film heaven help the film critics if they don’t say how great an actress she is.

Is Harry going to be a house husband, what else can he do ?

MawB Mon 13-Jan-20 19:28:33

I take your point maddyone and I would never suggest that comparison.
All the talk of Oprah Winfrey etc is surely a case of the media talking things up - “never letting the facts get in the way of a good story” ?

Trying to be a Devil’s advocate perhaps but I think compromise is the only way forward. If Meghan is not prepared to meet the RF at least part way, then that is another matter of course.

Callistemon Mon 13-Jan-20 19:29:13

It is different for William. He has had to accept the status quo and resigned himself to it.
He and Catherine are doing a good job of it.

It doesn't mean he doesn't wistfully wish he could have done the same.
He probably does feel let down.

cannotbelieveiamaskingthis208 Mon 13-Jan-20 19:29:49

Tickingbird - Oh my lord! Are people really thinking that? That was certainly not my intention!

tickingbird Mon 13-Jan-20 19:32:48

cannotbelieve No I was being ironic. Some on here think any criticism or negative comment regarding Meghan is racist.

sparkii Mon 13-Jan-20 19:38:06

A house husband, like a house wife is a fine and important role for anybody.

Iam64 Mon 13-Jan-20 19:38:52

Thank goodness for the statement from the Queen. This confirms the RF is responding to Harry and Meghan's wishes as any other loving, successful family business would. Yes, we'd rather they stayed full time but we understand and respect their desire to do things differently.

I see the two brothers issues a joint statement saying the Times report was total lies.

annodomini- many thanks for the link, I found it both interesting and much more believable than any of the stuff I've seen in the msm press this week.

People who continue to insist Meghan Markle has not been the subject of racism may find reading annodomini's link helps them see it differently. Maybe not though, none so blind as those who will not see.

tickingbird Mon 13-Jan-20 19:40:15

No he’ll be her agent. We’ve already seen him touting for work for hergrin

Anniebach Mon 13-Jan-20 19:44:14

Iam not everyone reads rubbish such as twitter and Facebook.

merlotgran Mon 13-Jan-20 19:45:22

Obviously the Queen had to voice her regret at Harry and Meghan no longer being full time royals but in truth I think they'll all be better off without them.

Meghan was never going to settle into the Firm, she allegedly told friends that her plan was to eventually go back to America so that Archie could be educated there. I don't think Harry would have had any say in the matter.

Maybe Jameela Jamil was right and this is what power looks like. hmm

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