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grannyactivist Thu 27-Feb-20 12:16:32

I sometimes get frustrated when threads become centred on what our differences are, rather than on our shared values. This is especially evident, understandably, on the overtly political threads.

There are things that I think we can all agree on and outlining these things can help us to find common ground as a starter for re-thinking how, as a society and within communities, we can address some of the problems we see around us; particularly problems relating to poverty.

I run a homelessness charity and I get huge amounts of support from people right across the political spectrum, so I know that personal politics need not (and in my own experience does not) limit people's willingness to try to make a difference.

So, what can we agree on? What I note from the people who support my project are:

*That we share values of compassion and justice.
*That we acknowledge we all rely on public services in some way and that people who are struggling may need additional help.
*That as a society and a community we care about people and we have a moral duty to look out for each other.
*That although the economy can restrict people’s options, it can also be adapted or changed.
*That our social security system can be improved to release people from the restrictions the economy places on them.
*That people (almost anyone) can be drawn into poverty, by circumstances such as poor health, low wages, relationship breakdown, redundancy or increasing living costs.

I think (hope) that if we focus on these shared themes there would be a surprising amount of agreement.

rosecarmel Thu 27-Feb-20 16:58:41

grannyactivist, I think the point of the excerpt of the article points to the crux: experiencing a sense of being separate-

Be it being separate from homeless people, from people who choose to vehemently disagree or believing that we must agree with some things otherwise we're separated in some way since we don't agree, collectively or otherwise-

dizzyblonde Thu 27-Feb-20 17:10:15

I think it’s an excellent post. I have friends from almost every point on the political spectrum and we do debate but with mutual respect. One thing life, and particularly my job has taught me is that everyone. has their story and that story informs how they think and behave.
Equally our efforts may not change the world but we have to try. Doing nothing is defeatist but what we do and say should be tempered with kindness and respect for differing opinions and values. In doing so you may change people’s way of thinking. You catch more flies with honey.

MaizieD Thu 27-Feb-20 17:13:57

I'll leave you all to your back patting...

grannyactivist Thu 27-Feb-20 17:47:35

Thank you for your responses everyone.

The charity I set up has a remit to assist rough sleepers and people whose housing situation is ‘vulnerable’. I have two co-workers, both retired; one was a solicitor and the other a police superintendent, I’m a retired social worker/teacher. We all came to the work with a lifeview shaped by our own (differing) experience and understanding. It didn’t matter to me that both sat elsewhere on the political spectrum to me - only that we could find common ground in helping people. And we have done exactly that.

On our management committee we have ex-council leaders from both the Conservative and the Labour Party. They are warm, compassionate, kindly people and are both working very hard to find ways of addressing the issues that leave people homeless or vulnerably housed.

Callistemon Thu 27-Feb-20 18:07:19

grannyactivist
There cannot be many people who would disagree with the points you have made in your OP.

Perhaps the main differences lie in the way that posters, of whatever political persuasion, think these problems should be addressed.

Eloethan Thu 27-Feb-20 18:23:14

grannyactivist I agree with you, and probably the majority of people would say they agree with those ideas.

The sticking point, though, is that some who agree in theory then start to add all sorts of caveats as to who is deserving of assistance - whether they have brought misfortune on themselves, etc. etc. Additionally, all sorts of assumptions (and judgments) start to be made as to how much money people receive in benefit payments, how the money is spent, etc, etc.

Inevitably there are those who proclaim "I've worked hard for what I have and why should I have to subsidise those who haven't". There seems to be an innate mindset within some people that those who fall upon hard times are predominantly idlers and ne'er do wells who have only themselves to blame.