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Are you paying your cleaner during lockdown?

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PamelaJ1 Sun 19-Apr-20 13:26:35

There is an article in the paper about cleaners who can’t work and aren’t being paid at all.

I’ve talked to mine about this and I am not paying her, perhaps I should? She is self employed and declares everything she earns and pays tax and NI. I am also self employed, am earning nothing and am not sure if I qualify for the 80% because I am a Ltd. company.
She says she will get the 80% and is fine.

I am in a much better position than her to weather this storm and after reading the article am feeling very guilty.
I think I will pay her the 20% she won’t be getting, does that seem fair?

EllanVannin Sun 19-Apr-20 13:42:55

PamelaJ1, if your cleaner is normally in regular employment with yourself then I would make up the shortfall of 20%.

SueDonim Sun 19-Apr-20 13:46:07

You’re in a difficult position if you’re not receiving an income yourself. flowers I guess if you can top her up, it would be a nice thing to do, but if she is able to claim 80% at least that’s something.

I’m still paying my cleaner but our income isn’t affected because Dh is retired. She’ll probably want to ‘repay’ me when this is all over by doing some extra bits and bobs, too.

Jane10 Sun 19-Apr-20 14:12:33

Of course I'm paying our cleaner. I was always paid if off sick or on special leave or even holiday so I feel I'm honour bound to give anyone I employ the same conditions. I know that one other of her clients is doing the same. I can only hope that the others are doing the decent thing.

Shelmiss Sun 19-Apr-20 14:14:54

Yes we’re paying our cleaner what we normally pay her. And will continue to do so. We can afford to, so to me it’s the right thing to do.

We’re also paying our ironing lady.

grannysyb Sun 19-Apr-20 14:19:43

When I sent my cleaner a text about having to stop her coming,I asked for her address so that I could send her some money, she wouldn't tell me! I will pay extra after this nightmare ends.

Jane10 Sun 19-Apr-20 14:22:32

grannysyb could you get her bank details and set up a direct debit? That could remain in place once things are back to normal too.

Galaxy Sun 19-Apr-20 14:42:10

I think you need to ask her. I stopped my cleaner and said I would obviously continue to pay. She asked me not to. We dont know peoples circumstances.

GrannySomerset Sun 19-Apr-20 14:48:34

We have had the same wonderful cleaner for nearly 25 years and have always paid her when sick (rarely apart from six weeks after a hysterectomy) and on holiday, so we are continuing to do so. And I appreciate her even more after four weeks of doing it myself! The house looks distinctly the worse for wear without her energetic ministrations. I am desperate for her return!

GabriellaG54 Sun 19-Apr-20 14:52:05

Some cleaners don't decare cash in hand and that's why they won't give you bank details. I worked for a couple who paid for a carer for their granny. The carer got paid by cheque but asked to have the payee area left blank.
For that reason she was paid less than the going rate
We never knew her real name, just the English one she adopted.

GabriellaG54 Sun 19-Apr-20 14:52:52

*declare not decare

Rosalyn69 Sun 19-Apr-20 15:36:00

I told my cleaner I would pay her half wages while this lock down is on. She has refused but Once she is back at work I will make sure I pay her fir while she was laid off.

GabriellaG54 Sun 19-Apr-20 16:18:02


GabriellaG54 Sun 19-Apr-20 16:21:10

I'm paying my cleaner, my ironing lady, my window cleaner, my bedmaker, cook and bottle washer the full going rate.
I'm making a mint.

yggdrasil Sun 19-Apr-20 17:19:14

I am paying my cleaner. I can afford it. She needed a bit of persuading though. I have told her there will be rather more to do when she can come back as I am not very good at it:-)

Jane10 Sun 19-Apr-20 17:35:29

Gabriella- unpleasant?

PamelaJ1 Sun 19-Apr-20 17:59:39

Yggdrasil, my cleaner won’t find much to do. I’ve really ‘bottomed’ my house. I don’t expect that she can do much in 3 hours a week but she certainly keeps us on our toes.
I’ve done under the beds, cleaned our televisions with a toothbrush. I’m expecting more channels!!
I love her, she loves me so, hopefully, we’ll reach a compromise.,

GabriellaG54 Sun 19-Apr-20 18:11:01

No. Realistic. Most cleaners don't declare unless they work for a company. Same for gardeners, ironers and everyone in between. Not all ... most.

PamelaJ1 Sun 19-Apr-20 18:17:55

I think you are right GabriellaG54, now it’s biting them on the bottom.

GabriellaG54 Sun 19-Apr-20 20:12:47

That's why I pay (and have always paid) my aides/helpers top dollar. 😂

GabriellaG54 Sun 19-Apr-20 20:14:21

...'cos I have always done my own dirty work. 👍😄

Hetty58 Sun 19-Apr-20 20:17:14

If they're employed weekly, a weeks wages are fair compensation when they finish work.

GabriellaG54 Sun 19-Apr-20 20:25:19

I'll have to let my ex know that he's been short changing me in the past.
Now where's my calculator and accounts book....rummage rummage....🗂️📈📒🖋️🧮

SirChenjin Sun 19-Apr-20 20:25:31

No I’m not. My husband is now furloughed so his salary has dropped by 20%. With five of us in the house (4 adults and one 13year old) either on furlough, studying or working from home I can’t justify £200 a month for a cleaner who isn’t cleaning.

GabriellaG54 Sun 19-Apr-20 20:33:41

Splutter splutter...Gordon Bennett, I could have a week in France (winter rates) plus a suitcase full of Primark clothes for that money.