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I just discovered I like tormenting my neighbour

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vampirequeen Mon 27-Apr-20 11:09:01

Well not really tormenting but.....well I'll explain.

I have a rather odd neighbour. She bought her flat and is now trying to sell it. It's been on the market for a long time (well before lockdown) and no one is interested.

Now it could be explained by the price. For the same or even less money you could buy something bigger, freehold and with off street parking.

But she seems to blame us. She chose to buy a leasehold council flat years before we moved here. We're council tenants and she seems to think that having council tenants next door is putting people off. We're very well behaved....not the DM chavy version. I'm a bit dim when it comes to people being nasty. I tend to either miss it or excuse it. I was a bit surprised when she stopped talking to us just after the council put our new bathroom in but at first I just thought she was busy, not well, distracted by something in her life. But it's become a bit daft now. Recently she shouted at me for putting a pot of tulips near 'her' tree (communal garden). I don't like upsetting people and it is a shared area so I moved the pot. I should add that when we moved there was a weedy, messy area that a previous tenant had, at some point, tried to plant up so I just tidied it up and added a few bits and bobs. Nobody complained because most people like to see a few flowers and anyway it was better than the mess it was. Later she complained/shouted at me because I put the tulips near the birdbath so I put them elsewhere.

I finally cracked the other day and accepted that she was indeed trying to ignore me when she wasn't shouting at me. So I decided to wind her up. I know I shouldn't be I can't stop myself. I decided the best way to wind her up was to pretend that I didn't know I was being ignored. You see she makes it rather obvious by looking away and even crossing the road. So now when I see her I say 'Hi *. Y'all right?'. This puts her in an awkward position. Does she carry on ignoring me now that I've greeted day or does her Englishness force her to be polite and reply? Oh the pain on her face when she says 'Hello' in reply. grin

Riggie Tue 28-Apr-20 11:29:45

Our neighbour is very nosey. If we have any workmen round she intercepts them within minutes of their arrival to find out what we are having done. If she doesnt like it and she thinks it affects her, then we get a note put through our door.
Our regular handyman is a relative of dh's so we can rely on him to help us out and not give her any relevant information. In fact he is likely to mislead her completely!!

Henny2020 Tue 28-Apr-20 11:35:58

I do that!
We have a neighbour who swings between being pleasant and being completely off the scale horrible. The more anti she is being the more I make the effort to say hello and smile - especially if she is with a friend! (Just in case she has told them how awful I am!)
For the time being peace has broken out - its a lot less fun!

cas58 Tue 28-Apr-20 11:39:37

Yes, if you're nice it makes it harder for them to be nasty to you.

Almaz65 Tue 28-Apr-20 11:54:33

I love doing this, it's very satisfying to shame people into being polite!!

Lilyflower Tue 28-Apr-20 11:54:36

Being extra polite and friendly to those who behave poorly to us is the only way to go. I read my book as I walk and, blessed with teachers' peripheral vision, do not walk into anything and avoid others by a mile. A lady who lives nearby, when she saw me, said loudly, 'Stupid woman!'

I now greet her warmly.

Of course, she might well be right. I probably am a bit stupid.

Philippa111 Tue 28-Apr-20 12:13:55

I was once shown an image of the face of a very angry and aggressive looking wolf..snarling teeth etc. It looked really frightening and threatening. I was then shown the whole picture of the wolf. It's paw was caught in a metal trap and it couldn't get away. It was in agonising pain. So we never know what the other person is going through....if their 'paw' is caught in a trap. Often anger, aggression etc is the expression of deeper hurts etc. Really good that you can stay balanced and kind. You sound like such a lovely, kind person. Being genuinely kind in the face of unkindness like Greeneyedgirl says makes one feel better and not bitter.

sylviann Tue 28-Apr-20 12:14:39

I've always told my grandchildren if some one is being nasty or awkward with them they should carry on as if they don't nothing's wrong and be so nice it will worry them

Nancat Tue 28-Apr-20 12:20:41

I have a similar but opposite problem. Last year I bought a ground floor exHA flat with it's own garden, both dreadfully neglected. I have worked hard to get both in a pleasanter state, most of the work done by myself, as I don't have lots of free cash. My upstairs HA neighbour has a really scruffy garden next door with a high hedge between. I have made lots of effort to be friendly with all my neighbours and get on well with them, BUT now I find that "her upstairs" is tellling all the neighbour what a show-off snob I am, trying to make my place a show home. If only! What I have is sale bargains, second hand and elbow grease. Fortunately most of the neighbours appreciate how much better my place is looking and don't take any notice of her, but it is still upsetting, especially with some of the things that land in my garden out of her windows (very personal things). As a newcomer, I stay pleasant and don't rise to the bait, but "snobbery" works both ways.

mbody Tue 28-Apr-20 12:23:02

Keep up the greeting and a big smile should also annoy. I do this with a very odd chap who lives near me and I have to say it is satisfying (childish too, but satisfying nonetheless)

Acciaccatura Tue 28-Apr-20 12:31:49

A friend of mine who had a grumpy old man living next door used your tactics with great success, Vampirequeen. She described it this way ..."I loved him into submission".
And similar to the newspaper vendor story, someone once said of an unpleasant person...."She doesn't get to choose how I behave". Keep it up, Vq. Being pleasant and friendly towards a neighbour is no torment.

Bluegrass Tue 28-Apr-20 12:50:11

Also known as 'killing with kindness'. I have a friend who was being treated badly at work. It was discreet but was clever enough to cause trouble. I suggested the K with K option and let the bully think you aren't offended at all. It worked, the offender was totally transformed! Maybe she needed to be liked by someone as nice as my friend.

Dealite Tue 28-Apr-20 12:51:02

Good for you Vampire Queen it’s the best way to deal with small minded people like your neighbour and you’re not sinking to her level but forcing her up to yours which I might add is decent and very calm and understanding. I’d like you to be my neighbour. Keep safe, enjoy the tulips and smile ??

Jo67 Tue 28-Apr-20 13:00:38

We shared a driveway with an awful neighbour for many years, I feel your pain. Bless you and just keep on being you.

SusieH Tue 28-Apr-20 13:00:44

Definitely the best way to handle this. Keep it up!

albertina Tue 28-Apr-20 13:16:40

Greeneyedgirl has hit the nail on the head for me. The man next door to me is a bully ( his wife told me that when they moved in) I watched him from my upstairs window once persuading an Anglian window salesman to come to my house. He was pointing and laughing and talking to the man for a long time.
When he came to the door he was extremely rude and aggressive.I have a police notice in the window saying I don't want cold callers. I was very upset and have been replaying it in my head ever since. I wish I could get rid of it. I rang Anglian and told them what had happened and their response was "Well, what do you expect us to do about it ? "

I wish you well with your difficult neighbour.

Nannan2 Tue 28-Apr-20 13:19:58

Theres a man(not english,so he pretends not to know i think) tries to stop people parking in the communal car park near my daughters town house.its a close,and one or two properties do have their own parking space/garage,my daughter included,but if their cars on space,my sons had to try park in the small communal car park further up- & this man,whose house is NEXT to beginning of car park,always comes out shouting at people& threatening them saying its HIS car park! (its not,theres about 8spaces maybe more) now my son,only a young driver (prior to lockdown,of course) would park just behind my SiL's car instead,as he felt very threatened by him..This mans a tyrant.the housing association or council should warn him.

Nannan2 Tue 28-Apr-20 13:27:38

albertina- Id have told Anglian in no uncertain terms what i wanted them to do about it..in meantime just tell anyone trying to sell you anything that you're only renting the place & your landlord wont be interested. (whether you are or not) they soon scarper.(i am renting,but works well anyway,as for selling anything like double glazing,doors, etc. they need the owners permission to buy.)

Dowsabella Tue 28-Apr-20 13:28:52

I once had a very sarcastic chemistry tutor in college. He seemed to take delight in making cutting remarks to me when things went wrong like "Who's a clever girl then!" I might add that there were only two females in that chemistry class of about 30! I dreaded chemistry practical sessions, and then one day, I decided I'd had enough! So when he started making sarcastic remarks comprising a compliment in a derogatory tone of voice, I thanked him for the praise! I knew I'd won when one experiment I was doing erupted and left a green splodge on the ceiling. He said never a word, but helped sort out the wreckage! And later, when he moved to the biology department, he suggested I took one of his courses. grin

Nannan2 Tue 28-Apr-20 13:33:07

And Vampirequeen, don't 'up the ante' too much as she may start doing things in return,and while she cant sell you're stuck with her next door! I would have just bluntly asked her why she objected to pretty flowers though,that could only make her property look better also? Maybe you can have a window box instead? And put more flowers out front when she eventually sells.

Nannan2 Tue 28-Apr-20 13:48:47

Yes,the '2 wrongs dont make a right' phrase crossed my mind too,when i read OP...my late mum said that a lot..hmm

Hetty58 Tue 28-Apr-20 13:49:22

Magi, there is nothing unkind in a friendly hello. It makes me feel good to appear extra happy - as I really do feel they must be unhappy themselves. Perhaps they notice the difference.

Alishka Tue 28-Apr-20 13:50:15

Oh Dowsabella , what a perfect opportunity for you exclaim "Oh! WHO's a clever girl then?" at your erupting experimentgrin Would have been the stuff of legends!

Peardrop50 Tue 28-Apr-20 14:03:48

I do firmly believe that behaviour breeds behaviour. Keep up the good work VQ, keep on being polite and pleasant, it's like training a puppy, eventually your awful neighbour might just smile back and be pleasant.

MegrannyW1 Tue 28-Apr-20 14:07:02

My mother's piece of wisdom was to smile at the nasty people or those who have hurt you and pretend you haven't noticed their expression. it confuses them all the time and shows them how silly they really are and makes you feel better about yourself. it works every time

Kalu Tue 28-Apr-20 14:16:58

Oh there is always one Vampirequeen. I would be putting the tulip pots back to where they were to really cheese her off but that is my way of dealing with control freaky types?

Love your tactics which will be frustrating her. Two can play that game.