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GabriellaG54 Wed 29-Apr-20 10:05:31

Boris has a son ???

Anniebach Wed 29-Apr-20 18:35:56

The birth of every baby is cause for celebration

BlueSky Wed 29-Apr-20 18:52:02

Lucca I guess Corbyn was leader of the opposition till recently and therefore Johnson's 'enemy'. Perhaps we don't know much about Starmer yet or he hasn't got a colourful private life!

Pantglas2 Wed 29-Apr-20 18:57:51

I think you’ll find that Margaret thatcher DID stand by Cecil Parkinson when he fathered a child with his mistress and was still married GillT57

Oldwoman70 Wed 29-Apr-20 19:00:33

As we are frequently told by some, if you don't like the subject or a thread you don't have to read it or post on it!

GillT57 Wed 29-Apr-20 19:06:04

I was under the impression that he was forced to resign Pantglas but if I remember incorrrectly, I apologise.

Barmeyoldbat Wed 29-Apr-20 19:16:42

Oldwoman I entitled to my opinion the same as everyone else.

GillT57 Wed 29-Apr-20 19:18:16

I don't wish to moralise on this birth, as many have said, we have moved on, thankfully, and many of us have skeletons in our own family closets, I certainly have! I am just bemused that politics has come into this; there are some who praise Johnson for whatever he does, will hear no ill spoken of him, and perhaps allow for behaviour that they would be unhappy to have in their own family, I for one, would not be thrilled if my DD was in the position that his fiancee is in, having a child to a man old enough to be her Father and with what, by any description, is a chaotic marital and romantic history. To drag Corbyn into this is irrelevant and pointless, and to be honest, spiteful. The baby is here, is we hope, healthy and wanted, but so were all Johnson's other children we assume. I hope this one is luckier.

GabriellaG54 Wed 29-Apr-20 19:26:50

Boris has 4 by his ex wife, 2 boys and two girls and two children (one of whom is a girl, the other unknown) with different mothers.

Pantglas2 Wed 29-Apr-20 19:28:44

He did resign his post when found out but was welcomed back to Cabinet after a suitable time had elapsed suggesting that Thatcher had forgiven him GillT57

GabriellaG54 Wed 29-Apr-20 19:49:45

I bet there are some GNers who have AC who are single mums and some who have feckless sons who don't support their offspring but the child just born had no say in the matter.
There are plenty born into terrible homes who suffer terrible lives, which Boris' son won't suffer.
We can only try our best to make this a better world for all children to live in safety and flourish.
If they're loved, that's fantastic no matter whether the parents are married or not.
His private life and how he conducts it are no business of ours unless his actions are criminally neglectful.

trisher Wed 29-Apr-20 20:52:49

GabriellaG54 if Johnson were an ordinary citizen I wouldn't comment or be interested in anything he did or said, but he is a public figure. He has pontificated about single mothers whilst fathering illegitimate children. He has cheated and lied. The women he has become involved with have frequently been in some sort of junior position to him when he started the relationship. He is not only amoral, he is hypocritical and predatory. Quite how he manages to pull the wool over the eyes of so many GNers I don't know.

Anniebach Wed 29-Apr-20 20:57:23

2 wives and perhaps his fiancé will be the 3rd wife. He is not
the only politician to have been married three times and had an affair whilst married .

trisher Wed 29-Apr-20 20:59:50

Not just one affair Annie numerous affairs.

Anniebach Wed 29-Apr-20 21:07:13

One is acceptable more than one is not ?

I wonder if he had an affair with the 2nd Mrs Johnson, he divorced and married in the same year.

I am certainly not defending him, just don’t like hypocrisy and
there has been today

GabriellaG54 Wed 29-Apr-20 21:40:58

trisher
You may think Boris is pontificating and being hypocritical when talking about single mothers but the ones he refers to are the ones on permanent benefits, who never work, who have child after child and the fathers make no contribution. Who get social housing and larger accommodation as the number of children they have, rises.
Some have undeclared boyfriends living with them who are not the fathers of their offspring.
Boris is not in that category and nor are the mothers of his children.

GabriellaG54 Wed 29-Apr-20 21:45:13

And I doubt very much if the women concerned were coerced into a relationship with him. They were all willing adults with jobs and homes, not waifs and strays he enticed into his arms.
There is a huge difference.

trisher Wed 29-Apr-20 22:09:07

Oh the stereotypical, mythical, deliberately single mother ! It had to come up didn't it. Too much Daily Mail reading.
The real facts about single parents
Less than one per cent of single parents are teenagers (aged 16-19 years)
Slightly less than half – 44 per cent – of single parents had their children within marriage; that is, they are married/in a civil partnership, separated, divorced or a surviving partner
But why deal in real facts so much easier to condemn and criticise.

GabriellaG54 Wed 29-Apr-20 22:17:53

Boris was not talking about the 44% and I doubt he reads the Mail.
I was not giving my views, I was repeating his albeit not verbatim.

nanafish Thu 30-Apr-20 09:06:58

I wonder if we would feel differently -If roles were reversed and a female primeminister had her 5/6th child and had three different fathers.. just saying like...

Anniebach Thu 30-Apr-20 09:09:18

She wouldn’t be PM

trisher Thu 30-Apr-20 09:44:18

Boris called the children of single mothers ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive and illegitimate
I wonder how his daughter feels about that?
He also wrote an article where he said the children of working mothers were more likely to become muggers and NEETS (Not in education or training). I wonder if Carrie will stop working?
If he were female nanafish he wouldn't have got past the Tory selection process. Male privilege may have changed, meaning men can now publicly acknowledge their indiscretions but the underlying philosophy, that it's OK for blokes still remans.

Anniebach Thu 30-Apr-20 09:52:43

If female no party would have elected her leader,

Sparklefizz Thu 30-Apr-20 09:54:27

I would like to know why Trisher feels it is perfectly ok to be extremely critical of Boris's behaviour, but not for GNetters to criticise Harry & Meghan's behaviour.

trisher Thu 30-Apr-20 10:14:50

Sparklefizz because Boris is an elected politician who has consistently lied, lived a life at odds with his public announcements, treated women like shit, fathered more children than he apparently knows about and made sexist and racist comments. And H&M are an inconsequential young couple who have simply left the country and a disfunctional family. But I understand that it's easier to throw stones at people who don't matter than admit you voted for a useless PM.

Anniebach Thu 30-Apr-20 10:24:55

Perhaps Boris comes from a dysfunctional family .

Throwing stones is throwing stones regardless of the target