This won't work

There have been complications in my workplace which I won't discuss in public (unrelated to me) which mean that my non-return was VERY prudent.

Now just waiting to see what happens next.

As you have already missed your provisional return to work date of 11 May,*Gagajo*, I assume you have already been in contact with your employers to arrange how you proceed for the next 3-4 weeks. As you said elsewhere, your contract is only for a few weeks more-
And since my contract ends in June
Is there any need for further speculation?

Every job I've applied for over the last 20 or so years had had a health questionnaire to complete. I've had a couple of things to include, one of which is the asthma.

Gagajo, if you do seek further employment with a different employer ensure you declare your existing health condition on application for any position.

As as a great many employers and our own company are finding no one can make workplaces 100% safe in regard to Covid-19 infection. All we can do is undertake everything practically feasible to bring about the highest safety possible under the circumstances that exist in the workplace.

Therefore Gagajo, in the above, should you not declare any existing condition on an application for employment then that employer, should he grant you employment, would be entitled to dismiss you for gross misconduct should your health condition become apparent while in employment.

My understanding is that your normal contractual obligations kick in should a change of circumstance occur whilst on furlough.

Yes @ineedamum.

You can work for someone else whilst on furlough, but you can't take further paid work from the employer who's furloughing you.

(Unless there's something in your contract that forbids it, I guess).

Am I right in thinking that your contract was only going to run until June anyway Gagajo
Suely you could take sick leave or even holiday up to the final date?

Grandad, two things then. 1) I guess I'm lucky I can work from home. 2) I'd give up my job before risking my health.

GagaJo, strangely enough just this week I have been dealing with a very similar situation to that you described in your post @18:38 today.

An employer enquired of our company what their position is as they have an employee who is stating he cannot return to work from being on furlough due to long standing chest problems.

We have advised on looking deeper into the circumstance that should the employee contract Covid-19 while at work it would be without doubt an extremely serious health situation for him.

However, as an employer they could now place the employee on sick leave with the corresponding wages payment for that. Should then the Covid-19 situation persist (example, no vaccine found in the near future) the employee could then be requested to attend an employment compatibility interview. it would then be decided at that interview whether the employee's condition is such that he would never at any time in the foreseeable future be capable of carrying out his employment duties for the company without gravely endangering his health.

Should the above be found to be the case, then the employee could be released from employment with the company on the grounds of ill-health making him incompatible with the work duties he has been employed to carry out.

Obviously, there would be no entitlement to a redundancy payment to the employee as the job will still be in existence but the existing employee is incapable of performing that work.

Some people thrive on attention and I believe we have one here.

oldgimmer1 if a person on furlough works for someone else, do they get paid from two employers?

I think you'll find workers CAN refuse to return if they are in any of the at risk categories. I have asthma. Not safe for me.

A worker can't simply "decline" a reasonable request to return to work. That would be breach of contract.

There's nothing stopping furloughed workers working for someone else whilst on furlough.

Some people are loving furlough. You can't really blame them. I'd love it too. .

Thanks Grandad.

I think she was just stirring. Obviously she's partial to whatever handouts SHE gets. It's just the proles she doesn't want benefitting.

GagaJo Quote [vegansrock, the OP is a fairly wealthy women] End Quote.

GagaJo, the OP has very often stated in the past that she is a very wealthy woman who gained that wealth from being married to a very successful Banker.

However, the OP has forgotten that the Banking industry was bailed out to the tune of many billions of pounds following the banking crisis. That crisis was entirely of the banking and finance industries own making but all attached to the industry benefited greatly from that taxpayer bailout.

However, the OP now castigates others for receiving government funding for the effects on them of a crisis that was not in any way of their making.

gillybob - As an employer, once you have ensured safe working conditions for your employees and notified them and the government that you now expect them to come to work, what is likely to happen?

Are they highly skilled and thus difficult to replace if they leave?

Are they likely to find equally good employment?
Bearing in mind they won't be able to claim furlough from a new employer.

I do understand this is a terrible situation for you.

GG54 on 14/05/2020 22:24 you wrote:

No problem, FarNorth, no problem at all.

So why did you start this topic at all?

And why are you here now, still banging on about those lazy people who should be in work?

And complaining about GNers who disagree with you while claiming you enjoy reading different opinions?

Hahaha. Exactly. Work peasants. Lash!

Working people lounging around, being paid to do nothing? Who do they think they are, the royal family?

Very good point, Ilovecheese. I wish I was able to multitask like that!

So which one is it? How are furloughed workers managing to simultaneously laze around on the sofa all day and work for cash in hand?

vegansrock, the OP is a fairly wealthy women who hasn't had to struggle and castigates public/key workers (nurses, teachers etc) for not making better career choices.

On this occasion, I don't think she actually wanted to be nasty, I think she was looking for an argument. Probably bored in isolation.

It seems like the OP jumped in in with “claws unsheathed” in the beginning - slamming those who are being furloughed for being lazy so and so’s who are all getting backhanders working as well as lying on the sofa all day when they could be squashed up on public transport. If they are in the travel or hospitality sector there aren’t any jobs to go to btw.

Room for six in ours plus two staff so quite a lot of exhaled germs I suspect with only the door open for ventilation- probably not 100% safe but then I doubt anywhere in public is.

Our corner shop only lets in 3 people at a time. Does the super market ?