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annsixty Sun 28-Jun-20 19:05:48

We have had , in the past, a few threads about “virtue signalling”
Am I the only one, or does anyone agree with me that we now have quite a few posts “ wealth signalling “?
I may be completely wrong and to talk about possessions, travel etc is normal.
I will be happy to be proved wrong.

annsixty Tue 30-Jun-20 10:46:33

That was in reply to DannyRea’s post.

annsixty Tue 30-Jun-20 10:45:40

There are only two people, now no longer posting, one recent and one a few years ago, who I had those thoughts about.
In both cases I felt amused not any worse than that.
My OP was really about the little things, not boasting really, but which set up the image of them I feel they were trying to portray.
Does that make sense?

Chewbacca Tue 30-Jun-20 10:43:37

Quite wealthy? I wish. It would be bliss to not have to worry about an unexpected bill arriving.

Callistemon Tue 30-Jun-20 10:41:25

welbeck

i do get the feeling that most people on here are quite wealthy.

Oh, really?

I thought there seemed to be quite a mix

DanniRae Tue 30-Jun-20 10:39:29

Has it occurred to anyone that the 'boasters' might be not telling the truth? Because we are all anonymous people can post whatever they like - maybe to 'big themselves up'...maybe to amuse themselves at the reaction their boasting causes....or maybe to be nasty?
Hi! I'm DannyRae and I live in a big riverside house , I wear designer clothes (a different outfit everyday). I drive an open top sports car and enjoy many trips to my holiday home in the South of France.
Non of this is true but you only know that because I have just told you!
So next time when someone is telling us of their wonderful life keep in mind it might all be 'pie in the sky!!' winkwink

B9exchange Tue 30-Jun-20 09:44:32

Have I been wrong to mention holidays? I know there are lovely people on here who just can't afford them, and I feel so fortunate that we have been able to travel; I am sure it has made us more interesting people. It is what keeps me going to be honest, we have past and ongoing family worries and planning the next break is my escape, even more than the trip itself.

But I would hate to add to someone's distress?

Rosalyn69 Tue 30-Jun-20 09:07:56

Aren’t we getting into realms of inverse snobbery?

Witzend Tue 30-Jun-20 09:05:47

Re money giving you choices, many years ago an old friend of ours referred to his aspiration of having ‘f*ck off money* - i.e. enough that if you hated your job, you could tell your employer to f* off.
Very neatly put, I always thought.

Rosalyn69 Tue 30-Jun-20 09:03:30

We were lucky. My husband left school at 15 and worked in a factory. He made good choices but worked 12 hours a day 5+ days a week until he retired. I unashamedly enjoy my lifestyle and we are happy. I see no need to apologise to apologise. I’m not a lesser person.

dragonfly46 Tue 30-Jun-20 08:56:24

You are so right Urmston, if you have your health and a loving family you are rich indeed. These are things no amount of money can buy.

BlueBelle Tue 30-Jun-20 08:47:28

Well I m not moaning if anyone saw it that way I actually enjoy being resourceful and recycling and if I ever own a Louis Verton bag ( probably the only ‘name’ I recognise but probably can’t spell and can’t be bothered to look it up) it will come from the charity shop and because I like it not because I like the name
Viva la poor ...No that’s a joke I don’t consider I m poor at all but I don’t see riches in the trappings of what I think is on the whole a greedy society I don’t think people see it as boasting when they name drop but it is, because why else do it (I don’t necessarily mean on here, in life in general)
If you see a street kid with nothing playing with a home made toy and compare his/her joy with that of a kid who has ‘everything’ that’s what I would get a thrill out of not a swimming pool and Jimmy choo shoes ( wow I know another name)

kittylester Tue 30-Jun-20 08:36:48

What gilly said!

I don't think that anyone has a truly blessed life. Some people have more money than others but we all have our own crosses to bear.

Oldbutstilluseful Tue 30-Jun-20 08:34:10

Urmstongran a lovely post which warms my heart. You are rich indeed.

gillybob Tue 30-Jun-20 08:23:48

A Lovely post Urms smile

Urmstongran Tue 30-Jun-20 08:21:45

A very interesting thread annsixty and thought provoking.

A poster upset me two or three years ago when she mentioned I had a ‘second home in the sun’ and made a couple of hurtful comments.

We are in our late 60’s. For us it was a lifestyle choice for our upcoming retirement. We owned an ordinary semi and chose to split it in half (financially) and bought 2 very small apartments when we downsized. We have never inherited anything. We own a small, old Peugeot 107 at the U.K. home. We have no garden to spend money on and our places are so little you wouldn’t believe how low our utility bills are!

But we have our good health, are still married after almost 50 years together (I deserve a medal haha!) and our two daughters and extended families are a joy for which I am truly grateful. Two gorgeous grandchildren fill the space in my heart that I didn’t know was there. ?❤️ I count my blessings every day.
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Puzzler61 Tue 30-Jun-20 08:09:19

This is a really thought provoking thread annsixty so thank you for starting it. No need to apologise, variety is interesting.

I must have been living under a rock as I’ve never heard the expression “signalling”.

Gransnet has a cross section of people just as all aspects of life do. It’s fine to notice and comment on other’s good fortune but I feel it’s unhealthy to be envious. (Not suggesting you are ann by the way). As someone else has posted - be you wealthy or not your opinions count as much as anyone else’s.

I hope you can get your knee treatment soon and be free from pain. You’re overdue some good luck and happiness too. You can’t buy those ann. ??

Lucca Tue 30-Jun-20 08:08:47

Alexa

Annsixty, your thoughts of mortality would be of great interest to me.

I often think about death. I watched a film on TV which dealt with life and death. I would not discuss it on Gransnet as it is too serious for the general light-hearted or evasive tone of Gransnet.

Goodness me, we have so many threads saying GN is too “heavy” and now a post saying it’s evasive and lighthearted !
I definitely definitely would not read a thread about death.

Oldbutstilluseful Tue 30-Jun-20 08:08:33

Having a little money to spare is of course a blessing. Not having to worry about paying bills or dealing with repairs makes for an easier life.

However, the greatest wealth comes from having family who love and care about you. I thought I had this, but now, despite my poster name, lockdown has shown me I’m no longer of any use to my family and they simply don’t understand how being solitary for months on end can grind you down.

So those of you who don’t have money to spare, who struggle with daily finances, but who do have people who love you, to me you are the ones with true wealth and can boast away, as I for one love hearing how much some families care for each other.

I apologise if this comes across as self-pitying, it’s really not what I intend.

gillybob Tue 30-Jun-20 08:07:10

I think the saying was probably started by someone (or a group of people) who were quite wealthy and wanted to keep the rest of us in their place . Trying to kid us that their wealth meant nothing at all and “really darling I know you have very little, but you really can be just as happy as I am” grin

mumofmadboys Tue 30-Jun-20 08:02:08

I have heard poverty defined as lack of choice which I think is very accurate.

Davidhs Tue 30-Jun-20 08:02:01

“money doesn’t buy happiness”

Correct, but it does allow you to be miserable in comfort and when your maid cleans the bathroom you will complain that the gold taps are dirty.

Alexa Tue 30-Jun-20 07:52:21

Annsixty, your thoughts of mortality would be of great interest to me.

I often think about death. I watched a film on TV which dealt with life and death. I would not discuss it on Gransnet as it is too serious for the general light-hearted or evasive tone of Gransnet.

gillybob Tue 30-Jun-20 07:43:59

I’m the same as you BlueBelle ....way, way, way down the scale when it comes to wealth .

True as it maybe, that JR quote means nothing to anyone who doesn’t have the money to spend “buying better” and certainly wouldn’t cheer some people up . Quite the contrary I would guess.

Also that saying “money doesn’t buy happiness” what a load of tosh that is .

janeainsworth Tue 30-Jun-20 07:35:15

Bluebelle you only have to read these threads to recognise that very few people, the truly deprived, have no choices in life.
Ruskin’s philosophy applies whether you’re choosing new paint for your bathroom or between a £2 pair of knickers or a £10 pair.

Alexa Tue 30-Jun-20 07:32:21

I think it's not what you talk about it's how you talk about it that may be boastful or plain boring.

If someone intends to boast her intention is apparent from what she doesnt write, as boasting is boring to read. It's the intention of the writer that makes a boastful post, not the fact she spent a lot of money.
Each of us knows, presumably , some grans are richer than others . That is the way of the world. I don't feel offended by boasting if that is the intention however boasting bores me.
I can't actually think of any actual boastful grans but can imagine how a boastful gran would talk.

I was talking to a neighbour (before lockdown) who had been to a very dressed-up apparently expensive wedding on a tropical beach and wanted to show me the photos. Boring! But I had to make the appropriate appreciative noises. The great thing about Gransnet is you don't have to reply to boring posts or appreciate boring holiday photos.