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Denman College ( W.I.) has closed!

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lemongrove Sat 15-Aug-20 14:08:18

Reading the news about Debenhams ? has compounded how I feel now that Denman College has closed for good.
Sad times.
Denman College was a wonderful resource for all W.I and non members too, a beautiful old building set in it’s own lovely grounds in an Oxfordshire village, it offered courses on just about everything ( both day courses, and for several days with food and accomodation.
W.I members went there from all over the UK and women found knowledge and fun and camaraderie together.

Callistemon Sun 16-Aug-20 15:08:46

Then the minutes

Callistemon Sun 16-Aug-20 15:08:26

twinnytwin our group do it the other way round now, speaker first the minutes (as briefly but thoroughly as possible).
Then, if the speaker wants to go they can although most seem to stay for a chat afterwards.

Callistemon Sun 16-Aug-20 15:06:29

We have quite a number of Scottish TWG members in our group Jane10

twinnytwin Sun 16-Aug-20 15:04:44

A friend asked me to go to WI with her in our village. It was very formal with the minutes from the last meeting and all correspondence read out followed by discussions on those before the speaker - took ages. The folk on the committee were the same ones every year, just with different titles. If there was one nearby with some younger women involved I'd definitely join. I went 3 times to the village one despite paying for the year. I'd rather be at home.

B9exchange Sun 16-Aug-20 14:59:58

Have to confess my experience of WI put me off, as everyone had been born well before 1940, and was cliquey in the extreme.

But maybe that is just me, I can remember being furious at attending a local members group of a very well known institute, and being shut out of every group that I tried to join, in spite of having met some of them at conferences before. I really did think I had become totally invisible, just because I was the only woman there!!!

lemongrove Sun 16-Aug-20 14:51:28

Thanks Avalon that’s interesting.?

25Avalon Sun 16-Aug-20 13:12:05

Dillington House nr Ilminster in Somerset do day and residential courses and are opening in September in accordance with Covid guidelines. It is taking bookings now. The courses include crafts, history, poetry etc. It’s a lovely old house set in a large estate. Idk what the prices are like but can’t be any more than Denham.

Jane10 Sun 16-Aug-20 13:01:52

Thanks lemongrove. My 'roadie' ie DH drives me around but I don't think he'd be keen on such a long road trip. My talk topics are related to pretty 'Scottish' topics so I doubt they'd be of interest south of the border.
Re speakers I always think it's important to have a laugh and to involve the audience. The WI ladies nearly always have interesting stories to share on the old 'disappeared department stores' or the old 'Hydropathics' that I talk about.
Some WIs have produced books about their local areas and share their local social history. I think capturing their knowledge in this way is important for their local communities.

lemongrove Sun 16-Aug-20 06:54:53

Jane10 my WI would def book you if you weren’t in Scotland ( a long drive for you!)?
Callistemon the NHR kept me sane when I had several young children.....the one evening to keep my brain alive.?

lemongrove Sun 16-Aug-20 06:51:11

I thought the rooms went perfectly with an old country house, ( that was the aim) not trying to be an updated hotel,
However I agree the courses were expensive.Most people that I talked to found the whole experience really enjoyable.
Ideally, there should have been three ‘Denmans’ one exactly where it is now, one in the North and one in the West Country.Many older people were put off by the distance.
I wonder what will happen with WI’s now, I can’t see that most of next year is viable for meetings.☹️

grandMattie Sun 16-Aug-20 06:12:08

I’ve been to Denman several times and enjoyed all my courses bar two. Yes, it was very expensive + train fares and 5 hour journey, but it was a nice way to get away. I’m fortunate to be able to afford it. Yes the rooms were horribly dated, the food quality had gone down. It was a white elephant but I shall miss it.

Chardy Sun 16-Aug-20 04:33:17

I went on a Denman course last year. Parts were very good, but the organisation/communication left a lot to be desired.

heath480 Sun 16-Aug-20 01:57:54

I am a WI member,would never have gone to Denman,way to expensive.

Teacheranne Sun 16-Aug-20 00:53:38

I am President of a very lively, young WI, it only started six years ago and has over 90 active members.

In my opinion, Denman College was an expensive white elephant and very behind the times. It almost closed a couple of years ago so there was a big campaign for donations from members. But the lockdown restrictions have depleted all the funds. The photos of the rooms I have seen show dated decor, full of hand made dust gatherers and most with single beds! Sorry, but if I'm paying close to £500 for a two night break, I expect a bit more luxury! Maybe a nicer description is homely! The college might suit members living in the south but it's rather a long way for many people to travel.

However, I would be lost without my WI, even now we hold several Zoom meetings a month and are having little outdoor meetups in parks etc. Our speakers are definitely not boring or at least I hope not! Last year we learnt how to Bollywood dance, met a Muslim woman who went on the first all woman expedition to the Antarctic, been taught how to sketch, how to design a garden, how to avoid being scammed and many more. This month we have a Zoom session with a young percussionist who is going to get us playing music with wooden spoons! And there should not be a compulsory charge for refreshments at any WI meeting, you do not have to spend anything above your annual subs if you don't want to. We ask for donations for refreshments which goes to our charity of the year and have no problem if members don't pay - they donate the cakes anyway! Oh, and we meet in a local social club so the most popular drink is Prosecco, not tea!

Can you tell I'm passionate about my WI?

Callistemon Sat 15-Aug-20 22:41:49

I wish you were nearer, Jane10!

Callistemon Sat 15-Aug-20 22:39:42

I've never joined the WI but used to belong to the National Housewives' Register years ago (outdated name even then, now the National Women' Register) but I joined the TWG about 30 years ago.
Our group has a waiting list, is very lively and most of the speakers are excellent. Subscriptions are considerably less than WI but we do have to pay £2 per meeting for a cuppa and biscuit and that includes a raffle.

NanKate Sat 15-Aug-20 22:22:59

I used to be a speaker for the WI and other clubs. I miss it since I retired to help with the grandchildren.

I didn’t particularly like speaking at men’s clubs as occasionally they used to try and catch me out. Fortunately I got practised at dealing with the troublesome ones. At one business club a chap arrived just before I started and whispered in my ear ‘I hope you are worth it’ ?. Fortunately it went down well so he got his comeuppance.

Another club tried to book me and the chap said ‘We don’t pay a fee but you will get a free lunch’ what a bloomin’ cheek. I declined his offer and he phoned me again with the same offer to which I gave him the same answer.

rosecarmel Sat 15-Aug-20 20:48:11

I'm currently listening to The Outlandish Companion, read by the author herself- It's close enough to be called a lecture, funny and informative- It would help if you are an Outlander fan but even if you are not I think one would still find it interesting-

We will all have to make the best of what we have available until ..

lemongrove Sat 15-Aug-20 19:51:29

Your descriptions made me laugh Chewbacca
Talks can be made interesting, (no matter what the subject) by some speakers, others are the kiss of death to the most exciting topics by the delivery.
Authors are always good value! Never had a poor speaker yet from any.

Chewbacca Sat 15-Aug-20 19:45:45

One of the most tedious speakers at out WI was someone who had spent some time living in the Andes with alpacas. It could have been a very interesting talk. But delivery is everything and just a little bit of intonation, interspersed with a few photographs of alpacas because they all look very much the same, no matter what names you've given them, will keep your audience awake. I'm sure your talks are nothing like this Jane10!

Jane10 Sat 15-Aug-20 19:18:14

Oh dear. I'm one of the soooo boring speakers at lots of WIs. They certainly all are very different. Some seem deadly serious but others are more relaxed. One thing I noticed and found a bit uncomfortable at several WIs was the custom of having a special table for the office bearers and speaker after the talk. There would be platters of sandwiches and lots of cakes for us. The other members had to queue up at a kitchen hatch for a cup of bright orange tea and a biscuit.
Other WIs seemed much more cheerful and friendly though.

NanKate Sat 15-Aug-20 19:13:05

We have a good mixture of ages at my WI and I enjoy our meetings and the camaraderie a lot I’ve really missed it during Lockdown.

I would have preferred them to close London HQ And keep Denman open.

Chewbacca Sat 15-Aug-20 19:05:27

80+ at mine. And everyone on the committee had held the same role since time immemorial. Every one sat in the same seats, at the same table, next to Agnes or Sybil and so no one else could sit there. Even if Agnes or Sybil wasn't actually there. The hierarchy was entrenched and all attempts to drag them into the 20th Century, let alone the 21st, was robustly fought.
They played bingo relentlessly. And the young woman of about 50, who had the temerity to suggest that creating a Facebook page for their activities might be a good idea, caused such a uproar that she left with no notice!

grannysyb Sat 15-Aug-20 19:00:45

I gave up on my local WI this year,although it had a good mix of ages, I just found it a bit cliquey. I thought Denman was quite pricey, I'm not surprised it has folded.

lemongrove Sat 15-Aug-20 18:51:28

That really is a young WI gilly who will be too taken up with family life to tootle off to Denman I should think.Your meeting ps were lively I bet.
My WI is a good mixture of ages, but more 40’s upwards.