I know I m going to get my head bitten off but here goes anyway

I don't believe if Kate had the choice she would do this. All part and parcel if you want to be one of the 'firm'. Say what you will about Meghan I could never see her doing this if the Sussex's had remained in the UK. .

I don't believe if Kate had the choice she would do this.

There is no evidence to suggest that Kate is taking part in shoots although I have read she's a good shot.

Of course she has a choice.

That is indeed alarming trisher. But from what the article says, most of the birds of prey are being poisoned, not shot and that's clearly not only unacceptable, it's illegal too. From what I read, hen barriers kill off the grouse chicks and that's why estate managers are shooting them.

I can only reiterate that, having been raised rurally and being quite used to my father coming home with rabbits, hares and pheasants that had been shot for the table; I have no issue with it. Poisoning them, I don't agree with.

Well I have been thinking about giving up meat eating for some time now, and this thread has just about settled it for me.

I love the royals but I don't approve of this at all. I remember seeing a pic of the queen wringing a bird's neck years ago. Didn't like that either. It's true the upper classes don't see anything wrong with it.

I wouldn't want to shoot birds, rabbits, deer but that doesn't mean I feel outraged by photographs of people who do this. Pheasants are bred for the shoot on country estates. It's a business, some people pay to have a day's shooting, the retrievers get an outing and its seen as good revenue raising , productive business.
Deer hunting is something I find distressing but that's because I see them happily roaming on local moorland. In some areas their is a need to cull them. We no longer have wolves in Scotland, that would be an ecologically sound way to keep the population down I suppose, though no doubt the wolves would also eat cattle and sheep. It looks as though an organised shoot that raises money and manages the deer population is the way to go.
I have occasionally been vegetarian, don't eat a lot of meat and always try to buy from reputable sources.
I honestly can't see the difference except that animals in slaughter houses probably endure more terror than those killed by a single shot. Either we don't eat meat or fish, anything with a face frankly or I don't think we can criticise folks, even PrinceWilliam.

So, two wrongs do make a right then?

I agree with your last sentence Iam.

Are you vegan MissAdventure. ?

grannyrebel7

I love the royals but I don't approve of this at all. I remember seeing a pic of the queen wringing a bird's neck years ago. Didn't like that either. It's true the upper classes don't see anything wrong with it.

It's important to dispatch an injured bird quickly and efficiently.

Why do some people think it's only the upper classes who shoot game? Anyone can join a shoot. Yes, it's expensive but no more so than having two or three holidays a year or spending a fortune on a car.

When DH was a farm manager the farm shoot was rented by an NHS consultant. Most of the members were surgeons. The main purpose of the shoot, other than birds for the table, was to train gun dogs.

It’s not only the upper classes ! who shoot,

No, I'm not vegan, Annie, but I can have an opinion on what I think should be called "sport".

My ex was a shooter, I refused to have anything to do with it. Tried to train hs son. Nope.

But Miss Adventure I agree you have an opinion, I asked because you described killing in slaughter houses and killing
in the countryside as two wrongs, so I thought you were vegan

Well, I'm glad I cleared it up for you, Annie

It's true the upper classes don't see anything wrong with it

My father was a long way from being upper class! Shooting rabbits, hares and pheasants provided a meal for the family table.
Perhaps those who are so very against game shooting should consider how the venison, pheasant or partridge that they're eating at the restaurant came to be on their plate.

Perhaps those who are so very against game shooting should consider how the venison, pheasant or partridge that they're eating at the restaurant came to be on their plate.

Not to mention it's some of the healthiest meat you can eat.

Agree Chewie I know a farmer who holds shoots on his
ground, he rents his farm from the council, so certainly not
‘Upper class.

Shooting birds for pleasure is a ghastly sort of 'sport'. I imagine that William will have been so exposed to it all his life he just takes it for granted. If he actually had a think about it I'd hope he'd see it the way most of us seem to.

Bluebelle thank you fir understanding immediately why I mentioned Meghan,

Yes, killing an animal in order to put a meal on the table, is a necessary evil in our world; but to gain pleasure from doing so and calling it sport is, to me, repulsive.

I don’t like the idea of blood sports at all. To me it isn’t sport to kill something, but I accept that people do engage in these activities. I think an animal going to it’s death in an abattoir will experience terror and probably pain, whereas supposedly shooting ensures a quick death, I’m not sure that it does though.
I do eat meat, but not a lot, and I prefer vegetarian food really. I’m a bit too lazy to make the change, and I do admit a liking for a barbecued sausage in the summer months.

3 sept 17.48... point taken Merlotgran

Now this is truly barbaric - trapping songbirds

Yes, I believe this happens annually in Malta and Cyprus too MawB2.
So much for EU law.

I certainly don't approve of hunting for sport but, to be honest, anyone who eats animal flesh has no right to condemn this behaviour. The way animals are killed in slaughter houses is no better.