Women's legs & showing too much flesh

If you cant cope with people disagreeing with you on GN, I am not sure it's the internet site for you

I think it’s sad that we criticise others from our lofty towers of perfection. It would be soooo boring if we all looked the same. This is how humans look, various shapes, sizes and colours, old and young.

“Looks” seem to occupy a disproportionate amount of importance in our society, hence for example, the high rates of anorexia amongst young women and increasingly men, and the never ending search for the “body beautiful” whatever that may be.

Granny rebel seems to have touched a nerve with a lot of you! If she's at all sensitive she'll never post again.

Live and let live! Nobody’s business what people wear to eat their breakfast!

What does it matter if legs are veiny, lumpy, , wobbly, cellulitey or whatever? The woman was having her breakfast and enjoying the sunshine. You and your husband didnt have to look anyway! Dear me!

I've just been back through the comments and it's degenerated again into

"I can say what I want but you can't have an opinion on that"

As a concept once again that makes no sense.

I don't expect everyone to agree with me, like everyone else I do simply want my right to say it.

What I am/am not willing to say is a matter of morality.

If anyone wants to say "well, Starblaze, you disagreed with me in a way that causes me offence"

I just want to say, well yes.... Sorry about that but not agreeing is generally offensive no matter how you do it because people value their own opinions... I'm sure there are lots of things we do agree on and that's a good enough reason not to stay determined to only communicate unkindly in future right?

Otherwise I just ignore people honestly. I'm not interested in creating enemies or a negative environment.

Callistemon

Starblaze
Bodach you do understand that your thoughts can stay inside your head where noone else has to put up with them right?

Wrong.

Well, exactly so Callistemon! In fact if we all followed this maxim, there wouldn't be such a thing as a discussion on any topic at all! Policing what thoughts are posted and what should be kept in one's head where no one has to out up with them could be applied on several topics of discussion but, as we are free to post whatever we like, within guidelines, everyone has the right to voice their thoughts/opinions.

What people do often in my opinion is confuse matters of opinion with matters of morality.

People can and do say whatever they like within our laws. Their mistake is that they expect others to listen without protest.

I think it's ok when you're young and lovely, but do we really want to see old women letting it all hang out? I certainly don't!

Actually I dont mind at all, Grannyrebel because it makes me feel a bit better about my own appearance.
Quietly and to myself ?️‍♀️?‍♀️?‍♀️ in my long shorts

janeainsworth

^It's whether voicing that opinion is acceptable or not isn't it?^
We’re not only allowed to voice our opinion, we are also allowed to offend people, though that sometimes seems to be forgotten.
What we are not allowed to do is incite hatred or violence.

That is correct.

It may not always be the best way to win friends and influence people and, if the OP had expressed her views loudly enough for the other guest to hear, that would have been downright rude and ill-mannered (but it is allowed).

There is a tendency for many people to "let it all hang out" these days and that is their right too, just as it is your right to express an opinion about it.
It would have been unkind to do it so that she could hear you.

Am I being dense ? How is this trolling? I thought trolling was attacking somebody online. Happy to be corrected.

harrysgran

Pointing the lady out to your husband says more about your own insecurities would you have pointed out the way she was dressed if she'd been mid twenties with a perfect figure

That’s a huge assumption on your part !And I would definitely say quietly to a friend or partner “look at that beAutiful girl doesnt she look good in that outfit”

Of course we all notice other people and may no want to look or dress as they do. I don’t think that is a problem but it becomes one when our spoken words make derogatory comments.

Starblaze
Bodach you do understand that your thoughts can stay inside your head where noone else has to put up with them right?

Wrong.

Pointing the lady out to your husband says more about your own insecurities would you have pointed out the way she was dressed if she'd been mid twenties with a perfect figure

Bodach thinking that other people have the same reactions as you is fairly arrogant I would say. I know some people have great difficulty in understanding that some people may behave differently to them. It causes all sorts of problems.

Anyone is allowed to say whatever they want on here within the guidelines of the board ( and I have already broken those guidelines) and those who respond to them have the same rights.

It's whether voicing that opinion is acceptable or not isn't it?
We’re not only allowed to voice our opinion, we are also allowed to offend people, though that sometimes seems to be forgotten.
What we are not allowed to do is incite hatred or violence.

Starblaze

Bodach you do understand that your thoughts can stay inside your head where noone else has to put up with them right?

Dear Starblaze, are you (after the fashion of the current 'Woke' mania) attempting to 'no-platform' me from this particular discussion for expressing an opinion? I would never dream of giving the object of my gaze any sign of my bemusement at their choice of clothing - or lack of it - but my thoughts are my own to consider (and occasionally savour) inwardly, and I refuse to believe that others' immediate reactions are so very different to mine. Be careful about casting that first stone. I judge people by their actions; never by their opinions, and I commend that to you. Many years ago, when my family emerged from the wilds of Wester Ross to accompany my Grannie (the living embodiment of the cartoonist Giles' Grandma) on a rare shopping expedition to the metropolis of Inverness, I was always intrigued by her insistence that we found her a suitable bench, where we would leave her to survey the passing throng. She sat there twinkling away at the passers-by - only to recount for our delectation on the way home the horrors of the various 'sights' she had seen 'traipsing along the street as bold as brass'. Condemn me, and you condemn my Grannie...

Just as everyone has the right to wear whatever they want to, when out in a public place, we all have the right to hold an opinion on that. It's whether voicing that opinion is acceptable or not isn't it?

I dont think it matters if people are regular posters or not, I would say a thread like this has only one intent.

Sometimes people post late at night, because they can't sleep. I do, nothing sinister there.

Galaxy

Yep sort of an under the bridge thread.

That's a bit unfair, the OP isn't a troll - a quick search shows she's a regular poster.

I am too vain to show my swollen ankles that once were pretty ankles. I guess people who display their damaged bodies lack vanity.

I must admit I was shocked the first time I went to Majorca and saw older women letting it all hang out. But now I just think, well, good luck to them! We should be allowed to relax on holiday and wear what we like. Personally, I don't want the world to have to suffer my wobbly bits so I'm careful, but sometimes I wish I was less careful....