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Harry laying a wreath.

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Namsnanny Mon 09-Nov-20 10:57:47

I read he asked for a representative to lay a wreath at the Cenotaph, but courtiers refused, as he is no longer a representative of the RF.
It was said the Queen wasn't informed.

I do feel sorry for him. Even though he must have given the choice he made considerable thought beforehand.

Does anyone know if perhaps he made a symbolic 'wreath laying' on line?

Obviously thats about all he could do given Coronavirus and his new life!

Anniebach Mon 09-Nov-20 13:44:29

Diana was welcomed into the royal family when they got engaged. Meg was even invited to spend Christmas with the
royal family , she accompanied the queen on several public
engagements.

As for the panorama interview, if Jennie Bond was taken into
Diana’s confidence as she claims , she remains silent now
Earle Spencer has raised complaints about the falsehoods made to get Diana to make that disastrous interview.

Lucca Mon 09-Nov-20 13:47:59

As I predicted.

Smileless2012 Mon 09-Nov-20 13:48:00

The right thing would have been to lay a wreath or do whatever was felt appropriate to mark the day in private.

I really don't understand how they, or anyone else for that matter, can consider it was appropriate to hire a 'fashion and celebrity' photographer to take a photo, and then make it available to the media.

If this isn't an example of distasteful publicity seeking then what is?

lemongrove Mon 09-Nov-20 13:49:29

I agree Elliane or at least one pic only of the two of them.
They took a photographer with them, it was a calculated move, as all their moves are.
If they just accepted their lives as royals are over ( since it was what they chose) and lived as normal citizens they ( and everybody else) would be happier.Yes, they would be snapped by the paparazzi at times of course, but that’s different to arranging the presence of a photographer.

Smileless2012 Mon 09-Nov-20 13:49:58

Do you think was right then Lucca for them to engage a photographer to ensure that as many people as possible would know that a wreath had been laid?

lemongrove Mon 09-Nov-20 13:50:36

Lexisgranny your last sentence made me smile.

NotSpaghetti Mon 09-Nov-20 13:52:34

I suppose all photographers in LA will be celebrity photographers.
I'm sorry if by posting a link to an article about the one they've chosen it's been interpreted as "Megan and Harry bashing".

That certainly wasn't my intention.

Smileless2012 Mon 09-Nov-20 13:57:36

Criticising their behaviour isn't bashing them NotSpaghetti. If that were the case, everyone we disagree with could be misconstrued as bashing.

No doubt the majority, if not all LA photographers do take photo's of celebrities, but this photo wasn't taken by chance, it was arranged before hand.

Ellianne Mon 09-Nov-20 13:59:08

NotSpaghetti

I suppose all photographers in LA will be celebrity photographers.
I'm sorry if by posting a link to an article about the one they've chosen it's been interpreted as "Megan and Harry bashing".

That certainly wasn't my intention.

Don't feel upset Notspaghetti. The link was interesting for many reasons, one being I actually love the art of photgraphy and how there is often a meaning projected in print which pulls the viewer in.

M0nica Mon 09-Nov-20 13:59:13

How many people are actually interested in what Prince Harry and his wife?

He is in his mid-30s, an age when one assumes he has the maturity to consider his decisions and not rush into them without thought. If he did got railroaded into them by anyone on either side, well, tough. It has always been clear that over this whole sad debacle, he was a man that wanted to have his cake and eat it.

Lucca Mon 09-Nov-20 13:59:43

Smileless2012

Do you think was right then Lucca for them to engage a photographer to ensure that as many people as possible would know that a wreath had been laid?

I honestly don’t care that much, I’m just trying to point out that quite literally anything they do is slammed. If there had been no photos people would have said “why didn’t they mark the occasion”
If he’d been alone the criticism would have been “Meghan can’t be bothered ...”
What do you think is the answer ?

25Avalon Mon 09-Nov-20 14:01:09

It didn’t need a photographer and would have been better if done in private but then Americans on the whole aren’t renown for being discrete and Meghan loves the limelight. Harry could have sent a donation to the British Legion Poppy Appeal. How do we know he didn’t? I did. He certainly couldn’t come in person.

Lucca Mon 09-Nov-20 14:05:53

25Avalon

It didn’t need a photographer and would have been better if done in private but then Americans on the whole aren’t renown for being discrete and Meghan loves the limelight. Harry could have sent a donation to the British Legion Poppy Appeal. How do we know he didn’t? I did. He certainly couldn’t come in person.

If there were no photos somebody would have said why didn’t harry do anything.
Yes I know I’m repeating myself

Lucca Mon 09-Nov-20 14:06:54

Dig at Americans
Dig at Meghan.
Any more ?

25Avalon Mon 09-Nov-20 14:21:41

Why does he need a photographer? He doesn’t have to prove himself? Lots of famous people do things anonymously as it’s not about themselves.

Smileless2012 Mon 09-Nov-20 14:28:21

I think the answer is to stop seeking publicity, and if they do need publicity use some common sense to differentiate between what is appropriate and what isn't.

Ellianne Mon 09-Nov-20 14:42:26

M0nica

How many people are actually interested in what Prince Harry and his wife?

He is in his mid-30s, an age when one assumes he has the maturity to consider his decisions and not rush into them without thought. If he did got railroaded into them by anyone on either side, well, tough. It has always been clear that over this whole sad debacle, he was a man that wanted to have his cake and eat it.

I think you're right about the cake and eating it M0nica. It seems a bit like a spoilt child's mentality, but as you say at 35+ one might question Harry's maturity. Maybe he always had decisions made for him in the past so is easily led?
Your question how many people are interested in them is interesting because I read a recent article saying the magazines are finding that putting Meghan and Harry on the cover isn't selling so many copies.

Calendargirl Mon 09-Nov-20 15:14:14

I watched the Cenotaph service live, then saw some highlights on the 6 news.
I wasn’t at all surprised that Harry and Andrew were not represented, or mentioned, at the 11am service, at least I don’t think they were, but in the evening news, Nick Witchell did make a comment about their absence.
I just assumed Harry might be laying a wreath in the USA somewhere, but did not expect it to be newsworthy, and would not have thought ‘oh, he isn’t doing anything’

Adding to the ‘bash H&M though’, I did feel in the photo of them both, that if they hadn’t been holding hands, she would have been rubbing his back!

lemongrove Mon 09-Nov-20 15:19:12

?yes, tenderly, as if he was aged four.

Lucca Mon 09-Nov-20 15:27:33

Somebody on another thread complained about people constantly “moaning “ about Trump.
Bitching about m and h is obviously fine.
“It’s not bitching it’s expressing disappointment “. My eye.

lemongrove Mon 09-Nov-20 15:29:04

Then don’t look Lucca wink

merlotgran Mon 09-Nov-20 15:29:30

Ellianne

You have to say these two images are pretty similar and posed for the cameras. I don't like a remembrance moment being about photo opportunities.

If my mother was still alive she'd have taken one look at the photos and said, 'Oh dear, It's a shame he has a gammy leg!' grin

Anniebach Mon 09-Nov-20 15:35:33

I am not bashing, I am disgusted they used graves for a photo
shoot.

Reading this thread is not compulsory

Ellianne Mon 09-Nov-20 15:40:19

Hey, while we are dissecting photos here, how come her heels didn't sink into the springy grass in the cemetery and come out all muddy? I know mine would have.
Maybe she took a spare pair of clean heels gir the photo on the paving?

Ellianne Mon 09-Nov-20 15:41:13

*for not gir