North v South - culture wars

Annaram1

There used to be a cartoon in a newspaper called Andy Capp.
That was probably by a Southerner.

Reg Smythe was from Hartlepool.

I don't think you are right about Cornwall Whitewavemark though obviously there are areas of deprivation there.

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He has a point. I’ve got myself into bother whipping out my pie on a barm whilst Odette and Siegfried were getting it on. I’ve never had that issue at a Wigan Athletic game ?‍♀️ ?.

There used to be a cartoon in a newspaper called Andy Capp.
That was probably by a Southerner.

I understand people have different tastes than me and believe that in 100 years people won’t believe that people paid extortionate amounts of money to watch people dance on tippy toes or watch someone singing (use the term loosely) in a language they don’t understand. However what boils my blood is them asking for public money to stay alive!

Jake's nickname locally is "Jake the fake"

Hoots mon. We Scots haven’t been able to toss our cabers for months.

Ee by gum. Aa'd post an answer to this but aa've whippets to walk, coal to shovel, an me flat cap to polish.

With a family divided between south and north and having spent part of my childhood in northern England, as far as people go I do not see any difference. On a human level the North/South divide is an illusion. Any anecdote about differences up north can be balanced by a similar anecdote about the south.

The northern side of the family are balletomanes, DGD is a good enough dancer to be selected for weekend courses with Northern Ballet at Leeds. Further south, we love opera, see it regularly, but rarely go to professional performances and going up to London to the Royal Opera House is a once a decade experience.

And while we are talking high culture, DS is a Morris Dancer. He belongs to a local group up north but when he comes down to Oxfordshire, the cradle of Morris dancing, he goes off to see all our local dancers as well.

Jack Berry should visit and talk to some of his constituents now and again, he might get quite a shock to discover how out of touch he is.

Lazy stereotyping by a lazy stereotypical man.

Maybe he thinks it shows he is dancing to the same tune as his constituents.

sodapop

Why does this myth persist that everyone from the North of England is not very bright and devoid of taste and artistic appreciation. Is it another myth that it is perpetuated by people from the South of England ?
Nothing wrong with enjoying football either.

Is it any wonder that this myth persists when a Northern MP spouts such nonsense.

Oh well, at least we in the north don’t eat jellied eels, yuk

JenniferEccles

Doesn’t anyone else think that this was very probably said as a joke, a tongue in cheek kind of remark, knowing full well what the reaction would be?

Never mind, another excuse to have a pop at a Tory.

Well I have no doubt there’ll be a few along soon ...

River walk, exactly !

Every time a politician says something offensive/stupid/tactless etc there’s this “oh it was tongue in cheek” excuse

JenniferEccles

Doesn’t anyone else think that this was very probably said as a joke, a tongue in cheek kind of remark, knowing full well what the reaction would be?

Never mind, another excuse to have a pop at a Tory.

Watch the film clip - he's deadly serious!

It gets worse!

"Our Glyndebourne, Royal Ballet, Royal Opera House, Royal Shakespeare company would be Blackburn Rovers, Accrington Stanley, Barrow & Sunderland"

MY post to JE obviously, not WWM2

Oh come on. Watch the man.
Who needs excuses anyway with the debacle happening over Cain etc

JenniferEccles

Doesn’t anyone else think that this was very probably said as a joke, a tongue in cheek kind of remark, knowing full well what the reaction would be?

Never mind, another excuse to have a pop at a Tory.

Oh you mean like the one in the letter left by the Labour minister??

Oh! Yes I get it now

Doesn’t anyone else think that this was very probably said as a joke, a tongue in cheek kind of remark, knowing full well what the reaction would be?

Never mind, another excuse to have a pop at a Tory.

Why does this myth persist that everyone from the North of England is not very bright and devoid of taste and artistic appreciation. Is it another myth that it is perpetuated by people from the South of England ?
Nothing wrong with enjoying football either.

Ah. He is in fact a northerner trying to save northern football clubs but he’s used a silly statement to make his point. There was no need to make that “comparison” surely he could have just said how important football is for many people in the north, as indeed in the south ?

I'd never heard of Jake Berry, wikepedia tells me he was born in Liverpool, one of the great northern cities. He ought to know better than to make such sweeping, ill informed and bigoted statements.
Opera North, Northern Ballet, Halle Orchestra, Royal Exchange Theatre, Liverpool Philharmonic to name just the famous ones. Most towns have small theatres, Bolton has the Octagon, nationally renowned.
Wot an idiot. Let's hope he loses his seat next time round.