Rather pay than give in

Maybe those who’d rather “pay than give in” should pay a “Brexit bonus tax” to pay for it all. Brexit voters only natch.

Grandmafrench
Thank you for putting up the true view of Europeans.
Up until this past winter we spent a lot of time in Spain, Portugal and France on campsites with other campers from all over Europe.
We spent many many happy evenings with these folk. Not one of them were laughing/ pitying/ sneering at us.
They said they understood and wished us well.

I would imagine it partly depends on your own viewpoint I am afraid. I spent time in Belgium last year and none of those I talked about understood it but then neither do I.

I agree with Petra and others - in our little town in Spain the only people sneering and mocking Brexit were the Brits who had been sailing under the radar for years and were now having to become legit.

All the Spanish were perplexed, disappointed but sympathetic at the difficulties we might encounter.

petra

Grandmafrench
Thank you for putting up the true view of Europeans.
Up until this past winter we spent a lot of time in Spain, Portugal and France on campsites with other campers from all over Europe.
We spent many many happy evenings with these folk. Not one of them were laughing/ pitying/ sneering at us.
They said they understood and wished us well.

Yes, that was then. How many of you have spent much time in the EU since last March, I wonder. Attitudes have changed hugely during that time. You only need to look at the Press all over the EU, and TV - to know just how they have changed their way of thinking. Many feel really sorry for the fate of the UK, but many are truly angry about the lies, the lack of honesty, the waste of time and especially, signing a WA very recently, then breaking the law to nullify it.

That was then - very different to now, I can assure you.

I have a GD studying in mainland EU, along with friends and family scattered across several EU countries. They and their friends and colleagues are far more concerned with the global pandemic than reading/watching biased news!!

Exaggerations Biba70

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growstuff

I objected to the smearing of two Labour politicians by association with another, who had been arrested (not charged) with serious offences. I was told that the poster knows more than I do because she's from the area, whereas her current knowledge is no more than second-hand.

Those are the facts. Carry on disputing, if you like, but I'm not interested.

Oh dear, pots and kettles.
Your own knowledge was also secondhand.
Deuce.

moggie I thought it was £350 m a week ? Or has it been downgraded? And isn’t it all going to the NHS? Btw, you do know we’ve already spent more on Brexit that ALL of our EU contributions for the last 40 years and it will be another 50 before we see any savings, if then.

Looks like you’re going to get your wish Parky

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Thank you for your posts Grandmafrench and Mokryna.

whereas her current knowledge is no more than second-hand.
No, she has returned and lives there after being stuck overseas.
It was just the irony which was astonishing when you had stated that your own knowledge was second-hand.

if australia can do it so can we

I'm left wondering what Australia has done?

MawBe

growstuff

I objected to the smearing of two Labour politicians by association with another, who had been arrested (not charged) with serious offences. I was told that the poster knows more than I do because she's from the area, whereas her current knowledge is no more than second-hand.

Those are the facts. Carry on disputing, if you like, but I'm not interested.

Oh dear, pots and kettles.
Your own knowledge was also secondhand.
Deuce.

I do not love in a holiday or retirement expat colony- I speak the language, and I read the Press and watch local TV.

I can assure you that the mood has changed, massively. Breaking the Law to renege on the Withdrawal Agreement was the last straw- when people realised Johnson and ERG had no intention of negotiating honestly.

It is not about 'knowing best' - but about the facts.

It is clear now that Johnson promised a No Deal to his bakers and the ERG before he was elected. Also clear now that he behaved abominably with Mrs Von der Leihen and colleagues on their last meeting- coming in all guns blazing and making very derogatory comments about the French and Barnier.

No Deal was always the plan for the ERG and Tory backers- because of the European Tax Directive. Making lots of noise about fish is just nonsense. And the recent 'the overn ready Deal' was about the WA - is nonsense, and so is the smoke screen for No Deal, by calling it Australian styles, again pure sonsense.

I do not 'live'

let's start on decorating the last bedroom hey- but please, best not call me mad for planning to go back to work 'at my age'.

moggie57 When you are unaware of what has to be done behind the scenes, it is easy to

For instance, I must take issue with you on the "big fat nothing" result that happened when we crossed into 2000. You clearly know nothing of WHY there were fears that many utilities would run into serious difficulties because of the possible technical limitations of the old programmes they were running on. It was only turned into "nothing" by those utilities having people spending many months manually checking every line of those programmes and changing certain things if they found them.

leave the clutches of grasping Merkel ? Are the clutches of the grasping US "almighty dollar" or the Chinese equivalent any better? Everything you buy at the moment is made in China - they must be making vast profits.

. . . . . it is easy to sneer.

Callistemon

^if australia can do it so can we^

I'm left wondering what Australia has done?

An Australian 'deal' is in fact, no deal. Johnson is trying to make us believe otherwise, but that's the case. No Deal. Thanks to Johnson's well known skills in diplomacy.

Thinking of the words ' ain't over until the fat lady sings'

Biba70 rather presumptive to think that you are the only poster who speaks the language and watch’s/reads local TV and press??

I speak Spanish! I have many friends and family out there. Spanish friends and family.

They don't appear to be doing much discussion with regard to Brexit.

But it's all anecdotal so we believe what we want to believe

A friend of mine travels widely in a campervan and she noticed a change last year. Several people of differing nationalities were very unpleasant to her. She said that in all her years travelling abroad this had never happened before and she was quite upset.