Eddie Izzard

No, he is not being brave.
This is all old hat.
He's a man.

Can't stand the bloke!!!

No, he’s being attention seeking.

His girl brain and his boy brain. ???

I used to like Izzard but as I rarely watch TV these days have no idea what they're up to.

I've read the latest pronouncements and have to say it's not brave - it's making a statement and I'm happy to apply any pronouns they require, but Izzard is still a man.

I quite like Eddie Izzard, find him quite erudite and witty, but I do not understand why he feels he had to make this announcement, it has long been obvious that he is gender fluid and it doesn't bother me a bit.

I love his style of comedy. Have seen Izzard live a few times and it was amazing fun! Was under the impression that he was going into politics full time.

Any time someone comes out, it’s brave.

And as a lesbian, I welcome her to the club!

I don’t think it’s brave and I don’t think it’s attention seeking. She’s merely asked to be addressed by her preferred pronouns. No big deal.

AmberSpyglass

Any time someone comes out, it’s brave.

And as a lesbian, I welcome her to the club!

Izzard came out many years ago as a transvestite.

As a male-bodied person she's not in your club?

Woman mode surely. Girl is a stretch of the imagination too far for a 58 year old even with a raspberry beret!

It's up to Eddie Izzard.

Perhaps she feels that, if she makes the announcement, people will know where they are and not refer to her as he/him. I imagine Eddie doesn't feel comfortable when he/him gets used.

Without the announcement, people will be inclined to say he/him.

But if they want to be a woman then refer to them as a " she ".
Why isn't the likes of Elton John ever referred to in the female vernacular ?
It gets on my nerves when these people ( males ) are always addressed by " he ". Well done to Eddie Izzard, now let you be classed as Izzy as in Isobel.

I couldn't care less, but it feels like a step back from Izzard's previous claim that he wasn't a transvestite, just a man in a dress. That was a brave step at the time, and a refreshing statement about gender roles being imposed and non-compulsory.

This seems to play into the hands of those who accept gender stereotypes and want everyone to conform to them by transitioning or declaring non-binary status, as opposed to being themselves and pleasing themselves about what they wear and how they present themselves to others.

What Izzard does would be nobody else's business if there hadn't been this declaration before, and if there hadn't been a contradictory one now. It's been pushed under the nose of the media, so it's inevitably going to get debated, which again goes against the previous message that none of this matters.

I don't think it was an "announcement" as such. I saw the programme and he was just quietly answering questions from Stephen Mangan.
I think he is the epitome of gender neutral, as he's obviously masculine and just as obviously feminine.
He lives his life the way he wants to, nothing wrong with that in my opinion.

I notice that title of this sky news pic is Eddie Izzard cross dressing - they haven't quite caught up.

He lives his life the way he wants to, nothing wrong with that in my opinion.
No, I agree - nothing wrong with that at all. But using female pronouns is making an announcement. It has to be, as pronouns are nearly always used when we are not there - when we are, we are addressed directly, so there is no need for them. It is also saying that there is something about ways of dressing that are inherently female, which contradicts the earlier message that this was not the case - that he (the pronoun used at the time) was a man in a dress, and that clothes were just clothes (as opposed to man's clothes and women's clothes).

Having spent most of life as a "he" now wants to be "she". Can't see anything wrong with that. She is an amazing and talented person with a multi-faceted personality why not explore every aspect of that. You only get one life. The costumes she wore on stage were amazing and I remember her talkimg about how she first learned to do her make up properly because she could afford a make-up artist.

Same here trisher. She's a very talented and sincere person.

My GD at 14 has just announced ‘she’ is ‘they’ or ‘them’.

The statement he made that he wants to be in ‘girl-mode’ full time just makes me cringe. He’s actually reinforcing gender stereotypes.

Being an actual woman is about a lot more than hair, makeup & clothes, it’s a lived experience of existing in a patriarchal world.

Is this the same Eddie Izzard who felt it was ok to demonise young girls because they had the audacity to be in a ladies lavatories?

medium.com/@MichaelConroy68/my-first-day-out-by-eddie-izzard-c8ff9bcae245

I’ve also just today come upon an article that speaks of the pronoun issue as akin to Rohypnol, the date rape drug.

fairplayforwomen.com/pronouns/

I don't define bravery as being self-centred, so not how I'd describe it, no. People can call themselves whatever they want but I'm not going to applaud them for it. Live and let live, no drama ta.

SueDonim your article says Forcing our brains to ignore the evidence of our eyes, to ignore a conflict between what we see and know to be true, and what we are expected to say, affects us It would therefore seem logical to call someone who is dressed as and looks like a woman "she".
As for that's article. It's written by a man who has imposed his own views on Eddie Izzard's actions. I'm astoonshed that you don't realise seperating mnorities like women and trans people is part of the strategy used by patriarchs.
hugshelp How is it being self-centred to tell someone who asks, what your preferred pronoun is?