Why couldn’t he do that yesterday?

'wearing masks'

My granddaughter's Primary Head Teacher is happy to open for all children but says, if the teachers refuse to go in, then he cannot. Boris does not follow Nicola, she always jumps the gun to make herself look better!

I hope no one on this site ever goes out in a car because you have more chance in dying in an accident than you will ever have from flu and a fat lot of good wearing has done us because they don't work. Stay at home scared of everything if you want to, but the rest of the world should be allowed to get on with their life.

And thats getting way off the OP post about Boris and the gov't descision.As usual....

*typo- each day.

And some even DO have younger ones with them, in buggies, who cry and they ignore them as long as they can, breathing smoke all around them...these are people i have actually seen, and even know some, over the years, whilst ive taken my own children to school.And yes i would hope we can all be better parents than that...

Ggw- im not speaking of the occasional drop off, in the car, with coat-over- pyjamas, to dash back to feed crying baby- im on about the ones who Actually WALK TO school gates ech day, in pyjamas, or "leisure suits" they can now get away with calling them- and just shove their kids in the gates then stand chatting, gossiping,and smoking for ages with others much like themselves..every day.Not just occasionally cause they're juggling a hard day.The ones i speak of don't know what a hard day is.So don't pretend it doesn't happen, that these folk don't exist.It does, and yes, sadly, some of them do.

Bbbface

Lucca

Totally Agree. Just cruel. My DGD so excited to go back today now no more school.

But if you agree with the OP, then if you knew lockdown was coming why wasn’t the child’s expectations managed?!

I explained to my children that it looks likely schools would be closed but I would get school bits ready anyway. I promised a film and an ice cream in the evening (in Jan!) if school was cancelled.

Consequently - all ok

Perhaps because Boris said on Sunday that schools were safe.
Perhaps because previously schools had been threatened with legal action. If they didn’t open.
And how do you know their parents didn’t “manage their expectations”?.
Good for you with the film and Ice cream. I expect most kids have had plenty of that in the last two weeks.

I think you need to do a spot of reading, Nannan2

Lazy parents did not insist on keeping schools open. This was a decision by Governments in order to allow parents working for the NHS or similar to be able to allow their children to be schooled.

It makes perfect sense.

As a parent concerned about my own youngest child's education, (17 now, still in college) Yet EVEN MORE concerned for his health and safety- ive got every right to be judgemental- the lazy parents who insisted on keeping educational institutions open are (mostly) the ones who could not be bothered to have to educate their own children- who kept bleating on last time (in march- may last year) about having to be expected to do so- about how they 'aren't teachers' (no because they had not enough education themselves) about how they were all cooped up in the house together- about how 'hard' it all was- these were the ones who sent the kids back to school not knowing how to use a knife& fork, not knowing how to do real schoolwork- we real concerned parents know they do exist! I have always been a champion of my childrens education but i am also very concerned for my sons health/safety as he has underlying health issues. For me that must be top priority.And for any concerned parent, wouldn't their child's life be most important.Not just getting them out from under their feet for a few hours.

* you should read up

I must confess to putting my coat over my pyjamas and driving one child to school, letting them out in the teachers car park (not allowed) , whilst having a 3 week old baby screaming in its car seat.

In returning home feeding baby whilst on the phone chasing you payments due to our SME.......but hey ho if you feel the need to judge ????

Am hearing of more and more of my friends, school staff, testing positive for the virus, my youngest son, a healthy 36year old coughing his lungs up, my husband back shielding, my daughter, a GP, seeing younger and younger patients in the corona virus clincs, have heard of 3people I know that died over the Christmas period- BIT LATE TO LOCKDOWN. Too slow again, however we are where we are and critical to do what we all can to slow the spread.

mamaa

Thankyou to Luckygirl and others who have said what I was about to. As a school gov I know that ‘my’ school thought they had a most recent keyworkers list- updated in October in order to have the most recent information ready if needed.
Having asked parents again yesterday just to check the info was still correct the numbers seem to have increased dramatically which has all kinds of implications re staffing/ use of space etc which hadn’t been required last year in Spring/early Summer. This has created yet more unexpected work for all as they try to find a way forward- and they were, or thought they were, comparatively organised and ready!
It will settle down, it will become routine- the schools will not close, they never did apart from the summer break ( when they were on their knees with tiredness as most teachers worked through the Easter and Spring half terms) which they needed.

On their knees with tiredness? Needing a break at Easter and Spring half terms?

Perhaps they should be thankful that they are not on the frontline with hospital staff who really are tired and many at near breaking point but do not have the luxury of any kind of break and just keep on working to care for us when we need them.

Oh my Nannan2 do you follow these parents home? Do you know the minutiae of their daily lives?

I guess you do not, do not judge others until you have walked a mile in their shoes

Nannan2

You have it all wrong with your stereotyping. Completely wrong!

The people who are keeping their children in school tend to be professionals.

And you clearly have no idea what the name Karen means. In the UK we haven't really adopted this which I'm pleased about but in USA a Karen is a woman who has means and money and clout. And they tend to think they're better than anyone else.

And they are extremely judgmental about people they think are beneath them

A ghastly trait, don't you think?

Oh and I am a real Mum and a real Grandma. I have never seen anyone drop their children off in pyjamas.

I agree grannygravy, that was the most unpleasant post I have seen and that's saying something.

Im glad you have 'never met' them nahsma- (you must be posh)? Because sadly some of us mere normal folk see them all the time- at school gates, near the shops, in the streets,(back when we had real- life) the commoners have to live alongside these people- we ALL know they exist- the lazy ones who cant be bothered to get out of their pyjamas to drop the kids at school, let alone educate them at home! DONT pretend they dont exist! We real mums have seen them! And as for HM the Queen, im not saying make a political decision im saying she needs to either put ONE person in charge at head of All the government-(of ALL four countries) or she needs to stand down then- (what's point of being a ruler if you can't make your own countries decisions?and no i don't think Charles should be in charge either- it should be handed to William now as he is a younger more 'in touch' member of a modern society. The 'constitution' of which you speak no longer exists.

I'd love for those criticising the government to be in their position for a few days - no-one is doubting that decisions in this situation are difficult. But every time something needs doing they are late, late, late. And every time they are late people die.

And BJ is always making sweeping statements - "best track and trace system", "schools are safe" etc. etc. and everyone knows they are lies.

Why not say measured statespersonlike things?

Nannan2 how horribly judgmental your post of 11.44 today is!!!

Many UK schools had 04/01 as an inset day so not all children were in school for just one day.

Nicola Sturgeon has always had her broadcast earlier than the PM, doesn’t necessarily mean BJ is copying her strategy, just means she broadcasts hers first!

GNW- if thats what Scotland had in place then why didnt Boris follow suit then? He seems to copy all that Nicola does so why not arrange close of schools back then?The mans an idiot! He totally seems to have lost the plot more since he was ill with covid- and as he was you would have thought he would have wanted to safeguard rest of us from being at that same risk, wouldn't you.?

Nannan2 It must be wonderful to sit up there on Mt Olympus and judge the “chavs”. I wish I had your insight into the lives of those I have never met. But sadly, despite your elevation, you seem to have forgotten your history - HM Queen is a constitutional monarch. That means she's not allowed to make unilateral political decisions.

Also- as Boris keeps waiting to see what Nicola Sturgeon is doing first then copying her- we may as well put her in charge of whole of UK then as she does seem to have more common sense than he does tbf! (Cause she's a woman probably)?

Nannan2 I think I’m right in saying it was already decided by the Scottish govt prior to Christmas that the holiday period would be extended till Jan 11th. Even then the schools would remain closed and pupils would have online learning until at least Jan 18th.

Then Nicola Sturgeon announced yesterday afternoon the schools will remain closed till Feb.

What we need is a Government with a backbone not the spineless lot in charge now, trouble is there is no one I can think of who fits the bill. Bet I get a slap for saying that !!

Rosina, the second wave was known about during the first wave. Made perfect, scientific sense. I guess the govt was also occupied by Brexit and green energy, but still no excuse to play with lives. Saetana, I heard the other day that children are forgetting how to use a knife and fork because of school closures. This sounds unbelievable, but I can believe it (I work in a school). It appears some don't learn any life skills at home at all never mind basic literacy and numeracy help.